2026 NFL Draft Special: Pick Predictions, Real-Time Reactions and More | Kalshi, Polymarket Odds

Heat. Hey yo. Ho ho. Welcome to the draft market madness. I'm Andrew Pearlloff. I'm here with some of the seven oracles. I got Jean Clemens, the coach. I got John Legaza. We are going to break down the NFL draft through the prediction markets. Guys, are you fired up? Gan, I know you got to go in a minute. You're doing a Giants show coming up and it's a huge night for the Giants. Just give me a quick preview of what you got going. Well, I mean, it's a huge night for the Giants, but I mean, if we're being real real about it, it's a huge night for everyone in involved in football because everybody's got hope right now, Andrew. You know how that goes. Like, this is the time where you can start skewing all of your content positive. And I love that part because, you know, right after the draft, there's going to be draft grades and people are going, "Oh, they did good. They didn't do well." I think the best part about what we're doing um tonight is that we're just we're just looking at the way things are going to going to happen, right? We're predicting it out. We're not we're not saying, "Hey, this person's going to be good. This person's not going to be good." We're simply just saying, "Hey, this person's going to get picked here or he's going to get picked before that person gets picked." And the Giants are going to be big players. I I read somewhere that the state of New York like the New York teams have um what is it like tw like like like a like a large percentage of the top 16 picks like 20% or something. 25% of the top 16 picks, right? That that's a question for John. That's math, right? That's math, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like they're they're doing a lot. I'm five and 10 right now. I can tell you that a lot of people think five and 10 um could be a defensive stack for the Giants, a Sunny Styles, Caleb DS type of type of stack. It'll be interesting. I think there's a lot of smoke screens going around Sunny Styles right now and him um falling all of a sudden nobody likes Sunny Styles anymore after everybody loves Sunny Styles for the last past two, you know, two months in this process. So, it'll be interesting to see what happen. I'm looking forward to getting a start over there, but I'm really looking forward to, you know, kicking this thing off and then getting back over here so I can tell you and before I leave, before I get off of here, I'm going to give people my my my first investment of the day because I want them to have it going on before I get out of here. Leo, what's up, baby? Coach Jean, my man, uh, in case anyone is unfamiliar, Coach Gan and I have a running series together. He's the better half, obviously. Oh, good to see everybody, my man. Yeah, I'm I'm really excited. I kind of have a different look, right? I'm a baseball guy and a better and a traitor, but not so much like the college prospector. And I found that actually comes to serve me, Drew and I were talking before we got on the air, even the most accurate of mock drafters is probably, I don't know, 25% accurate at best. So, I think two things. Number one, don't let the experts push you off a position. Their expertise is in the game of football and maybe in trying to acquire knowledge, but there is no expertise in predicting this future. A lot of these things are in-house. Also, something Drew and I were talking about the flow of information and how it impacts these markets. teams now have like a a measurable like market move. Like you can actually measure how much your disinformation is impacting, you know, the news. So if Drew and I wanted to mislead people into thinking we were taking player A, we could start a drum beat, start a drum beat. If the markets start to move, that means people are buying it. You keep hitting the drum and it doesn't get you any closer to the truth. So remember, markets do not predict the future. They just tell you where that fulcrum, right? Where that pivot point is for buyers and sellers, right? That's the the main like function of a market is price finding, right? You know, that's we were talking about these market things. I just want to lay out some of the groundwork. Yeah. I I want to get in that a second. Uh this draft is so weird because you're even hearing rumors that the Jets are not telling anyone who they want because they're secretly trying to trade down. Everyone's trading down. Gene, I know you're hearing this, too. Trade down. Trade down. trade down. Maybe someone wants to come up and get Arvel Reese. Usually you kind of know the top five or at least you have a good idea. This year there seems like the potential for chaos. Gan, are you seeing that right now or you think it's going to go a little more chalk? Well, no. Everybody knows what the top five is. It's just what order is it going in? Yeah. Like that's re and I would say even this year everybody knows who the top four is, right? It's going to it's it's it's likely going to be um Fernando Mendoza, Arll Reese, David Bailey, and Jeremiah Love. The question becomes, what's the combination outside of, you know, Fernando Mendoza? After number one is the big fulcrum swing. Is it Reese? Is it Bailey? Um a week ago, like people thought it was Bailey. The money was in on Bailey, right? You were getting Reese at 2 and a half to one. Now it is completely swung to Arll Reese. You're getting at, you know, at at at at 50% of your money. You know, if you put a if you put a dollar down, you're going to win 50 cents essentially. You're going to bring back 50 cents. So, it's like like we've seen it change and now Bailey is the is is the is the pick where you can really, you know, kind of get a little bit money, get two, you know, two and a half extra money. So, like there the change is happening in real time and it will happen in real time. I think that the first thing that's going to the first pendulum that's going to swing and this will be mine before I get out of here. You want to put you want to put an investment in early. You want to get in on the top five because you want to try to you want to try to hit you want to try to hit and and be able to cash out an investment that you can use to invest everything else, right? And so the top five is where you want to go. I'm going to give you two names. Arizona, Arizona and Tennessee. This all falls on the second pick. If the New York Giant, if the New York Jets take Arll Reese with the second pick, you can almost guarantee it's going to go Jeremiah Love and then it's going to go David um um David Bailey. Okay. like because Jeremiah Love and the and the ownership group and the owner over at Arizona years ago missed out on the chance to get Adrien Peterson. He never wants to miss out on that chance again. And I think he will bully he will go out and bully people into or bully his front office into taking Jeremiah Love. Remember the GM over there, he's on his last year of his contract. He doesn't do what the owner wants, he might be out of there. So Jeremiah Love at three, which people used to think was ridiculous because they have so many backs. It's a real thing. And I like the value at Jeremiah Love at three, but I really love the value of David Bailey at four. When I locked it in maybe a couple, you know, maybe an hour or two hours ago, I was getting seven to one on my money. Wow. I don't even know what it is right now. So it's like it's probably dropped down because maybe people are really on to it. It might be at four to one, 3 to one. Hey, Benny in the back. If you can find that um if you can find David Bailey um at at four and throw that up there for people to see um that would be great because I think David Bailey at four is going to be the thing that that really kind of get gets this stuff like popping, right? Does he go at two? If he doesn't go at two, he's probably going to the Titans at four if they love him. He's number one on their board. Yes, Bailey. Bailey is starting to soar at three, right? There's going to be some kind of wild movements. Again, we don't know who's talking to who or who's making what kind of action, what kind of smart money is coming in, and then how many people are tailing it. But Bailey to three just kind of took off his number at four, which is what I was looking at. Bailey just dropped to 17%. That's plus 217. Yeah. But how to go four? Yeah. this information. You know, this is the first really big year, John. The prediction markets weren't really the same size last Jean, you got to run. Yeah, I'm bouncing out, but I will see you guys in about an hour or so. All right, y'all. Kill it and make sure that y'all are getting out there, get your money in where it makes sense. A rumula out. Thanks, G. We'll talk to you in a little bit. Sir John, this is really the first big year. How much uh have you looked at the numbers or the size of the markets right now? Uh well, they're getting big. Yeah, it's it's growing in real time. Nobody knew exactly where it was going to go. I mean, as we're talking, the number is spiking. Now, I would still, and this is me, maybe this is coming from like a trading background. I've traded derivatives in the past where volumes are really, really high. So, I I got to be honest, I don't have a reference point because this is my first one. I'm seeing around $1.5 million in liquidity going on. This is in the number four market and it's not really moving much. We moved a few percentage points in I don't know maybe looks like the past hour or so a little bit of up and down. Now I think that is another thing we need to be doing aside from trying to gauge volume and how that might affect price. Remember volume really equals volatility, right? In order to have wild price moves, you need a lot of people after that asset. Yeah. So, one, we're going to be watching for the volume. We want to be watching for the spikes. And I think also what we want to be looking for are we would call them rectangular patterns. You know, when it is what it sounds like, a move kind of bouncing up and down. We might think of it as a price range. And this in particular, Drew, is where prediction markets become disperate from sports betting, which is binary, right? So you bet on something, it either happens or it doesn't happen and you get the subsequent payout at the time of locking your bet, right? Everyone is used to this, right? What prediction markets do since these are open markets, the CLV that betterers like myself often gauge our models by to try and you know encompass variance and what we think should have happened. Man, makes it makes the whole thing really really tough. This really makes the whole thing tough because again we have nothing to compare it to. And before you take a move where you're going to try and capture CLV, meaning like a move before the move, you have to know that other people are going to be on the other side there. Yeah. So, long story short, 5 million words or less. I'd be careful of trying to capture CLV early in the night because you may say, I want to take this position. This position is going to move. I'm going to try and cash out of it even if I don't believe in it and keep the difference. M. However, if there's no one there on the other side, you're going to be left holding the bag. And once we get really close to close, there won't be anybody there. They're going to kill that option. You won't be able to get out and you're kind of you'll have to be stuck with it. So, I think two things, right? Before we look to capture, let the market show us that that is realistic. And then number two, don't take a position unless you know you like it. I do this in sports betting sometimes now in prediction markets. I'll take a position early knowing I can get rid of it. Right now we don't have a week for a football game. We don't even have 18 hours for an MLB first pitch. This is like all developing in real time. So you know what I'm thinking head on a swivel. Yeah. You know I'm a little worried about talking about you know the uh the numbers changing on Bailey and Reese. There's so much disinformation. You mentioned it. There are GMs out there lying to experts. There are experts who are represented by agencies who are pushing players up. Every year we get we get fooled. I mean I think in a few years ago we had Will Levis in the top five. He goes in the second round. Nobody saw the Will Anderson trade coming except for Daniel Jeremiah by the way and he has the Saints trading up to three and everyone Jay Glazer saying there could be this major trade. Any trade in the top five, all these picks are totally thrown up into chaos. Are you uh I I feel like we were talking a little too confidently about the top five because of the possibility of disinformation. Well, I had my mouth shut while Coach Dean was going because I didn't want him to brain me on his way out the door because I probably disagree. Yeah. Uh man, right off the bat, you and I spoke off air and it wasn't a clickbait. We think we know who's going when and where. The fact of the matter is this one. You know, if there's a short list of irrational organizations, the Raiders would have to be on the top of it. They also brought in a competent quarterback. Yeah. The type of quarterback that you might think of as a as a bridge while you really build all the underneath stuff. I know often times we think about quarterback being the first piece. I would argue I think that comes after the trenches, right? We don't want to we don't want to bring in a quarterback that we can't protect. That's something now Miami is going to be thinking about. Yeah. Now we open up the other pathway to do you draft the best players. Are these teams going to be rational? Or are they going to be? Yeah. Some teams like the Lions make first round picks that we lol and they end up being great picks like Jamar Gibbs and Hutchinson. I think both got laughed at. By the way, I'm watching Fernando Mendoza just got picked and he's at his home in Miami and it is it's pretty uh it's pretty buttonup, John. I'm not going to lie. I'm not gonna say he's Bradyesque, but I gotta be honest, I am high on this kid. Um, but now, okay, we're getting word from Benny that, uh, producer Reese is up to 86 cents, so it's a it's a done deal. It sounds like Reese is going to the Jets, which brings you back to Jean's uh, selection. Sounds like that does make sense. Uh, David Bailey going forward to the Titans if Arizona Cardinals go with Jeremiah Love. So, yeah, that that makes a lot of sense. Um, all right. This is exciting. Uh, I understand. Uh, Nando, we got EJ Stewart on the Oh, EJ Stewart. EJ Stewart, my producer of Maggie and Pearl show. You know him as a host from WFAN in New York. Uh, you know him from his he has multiple podcasts. Uh, and you know why you're like you're the man tonight, not because of the mix, because you are the only person I know who's watched John. He's watched every Miami Hurricanes snap of the last at least two years that I know. So, and this is a Miami Hurricanes draft. Uh yeah, EJ, this is John Legaza. He is a a sort of a market analyst genius. So, you're going to give us some football information and John will help us make some some picks on the prediction markets with it. But, uh let's start, you know, let's start right at the top there. Dude, did you see uh we were just looking at the numbers. It looks like Arll Ree, according to the numbers, is going to go too. Do your New York Jets. What do you think? Arll Reese to the Jets make sense? I I get it. You know, I I leaned as wanting Bailey a little more, but and I got to give credit to Darren Muji. They've done a really good job of really playing around with the media and playing around with where this was going to go because it seemed like there was a lot of momentum to Reese last week after the meeting with Bailey got cancelled and then as of this week all of a sudden it was Bailey, Bailey, Bailey. So, I'm a little surprised to come into this pick coming up in just a few minutes and it's going to be looks like Arbell Reese. I I get it from the sense that if you're looking for the best player available and the Jets could certainly use that. They're a team that lacks a lot of talent in many ways. I understand why you would go with Reese. I guess my only concern was for a team that has lacked a pass rush, did it make more sense to go with the natural edge, the natural pass rusher where Reese, we're going to have to figure out kind of what his position is going to be. he's going to be off ball linebacker. Will he be able to be a pass rusher off the edge in that three four defense that they're going to move to this year? Um or will he have to be a little more versatile than that? And if he is, where else are they just getting that pass rush from? Right? You know, we got McDonald who's been a little bit hit and miss. They just got rid of Germaine Johnson. So, um far as best player available, I get it. The Jessica the best player available in terms of a fit for what they exactly need. I I really hope Reese turns into the pass rusher they hope he can develop into because that is a a just glaring hole in the team right now. Yeah, I don't know, dude. I don't know. This is the the franchise that picked Verden Goldston many years ago because of the athletic profile. I do not trust this, but it certainly uh it throws the next several picks into chaos. Um possibly because we don't know where David Bailey is going to go. Uh let me just get into some Miami guys real quick because they're really the story of the draft. So, right before about an hour ago, Ian Rapaort NFL Network said that Ruben Bane is flatout hot. Uh, I tried to sprinkle uh some uh some investment in Ruben Bane at 6, seven, and eight. Uh, crazy long odds. Doesn't look like he's going to be there till 10. The Miami Hurricanes pass rusher, short arms, have the shortest arms of any defensive end in his position. What do you think of him as a value pick? I love I love Ruben Bane and a lot of it stems from not just the player you saw on the field who was a monster but you know I followed the Miami Hurricanes very closely as a team I grew up watching as a kid and he went to Miami and some really down times. I know Mario Crystal Ball and got there but the program was about as low as it could be and he could have went to any school in the country. he decided to stay home and and and turn the Miami program around and a lot of that defensive identity that was essentially lost at the U really was established with his toughness and with his leadership. So I think he's the kind of guy that you can put into an NFL locker room understand the kind of professionalism he will bring and then I know there's a question about the tiny arms which I get but I just feel like at certain point somebody's going to break the mold. is going to be just like in other sports where we see, you know, the Dustin Porroyas break the mold or the short guys in the NBA break the mold. Some defensive edge is going to break the mold. And I feel like there's anybody has a shot to do as Ruben Bane with his ability, not just rush pasture, but also his physicality in the run game. John Gaza, let me ask you a question. Uh, say we do like a player like Ruben Bane, but we're not exactly sure where he's going to go. if you could check it out, like what would you suggest to somebody who's playing uh Cali for the first time, like what uh you just got a hunch on a guy. What is usually the safest kind of investment to make in a player? Well, it's probably a long shot at this point in the game. Yeah. Remember, whenever it comes to trying to solve these things, yeah, these markets are very sharp. So to think you're going to show up on an NFL Sunday and beat the most liquid, sharpest markets in the world is kind of foolish. That doesn't mean that there's no edge to be had. It's just had in a different way. So, you either had to have been early on the favorite or you want to come in late on the dog. So, like that's where I would be right now. If we're looking for, we've been talking about rational coaching. To me, it's not about how good Jeremiah Love is. It's about if we think it fits into these puzzles. These elite running backs are luxury picks and they there's a reason most teams are picking in the top five. It's because they're terrible and they're not ready for a running back to kind of elevate them. It not only it hurts the team, I think it actually stunts the player. Also, nobody really seems to win. And I get it. It's very tempting to think a player is going to get you over the hump, but look what happened with Ashen Genty in the Raiders. It was just a big nothing burger. You got nothing. You waste this. And he's a fantastic player. This is this is not at all a condemnation on that young man. You there you need situations to succeed. There's a ton of people and even more planning that goes into this stuff. Lots of moving pieces. It doesn't rely on one person, no matter how good they are carrying the ball. If there is no space, you know, or good game planning on top of it, you're not going to get any production. So, that's what I would say is if we're dealing with these markets live, if you weren't in early on the favorites, you're going to jump in late. So, like I would be on Styles at four, who has gotten a little bit of love in the market, right? He's increased from 32 to 36% over the last hour or so. So, we are getting a little bit of market confirmation without total helium and steam. Again, if you wanted to chase love that that door is closing now because he's over 62% you're paying a massive favor for something that might not even happen. So, I look for evidence in the market and then follow on an underdog. So, which shows what we know. David Bailey went number two to the Jets as we're talking. Hey EJ, you made a great great by the way. Okay, I'm going to put on guy who watched enough college football to be dangerous. David Bailey was obviously the better player than Arl Reese. Like there's nobody's denying that. So where did this Arbell I don't even understand. I said on our buddy Zack Gel show the other day that uh Ruben Bane is clearly a better player than Arl Reese. If you put Ruben Bane on Ohio State's defense, he would have murdered a quarterback. They would have had to have the cops come and and put yellow tape around it. So anyway, I just think like we we outsmarted ourselves. We totally outsmarted ourselves uh with Arll Reese at number two. And what does that say? The market was completely totally wrong. He went to according to Benny, Reese went from 73 to 1% in minutes. Oh my god. Wow. This is this is incredible. And uh so where's uh if somebody in the back, where is love right now for number three? Do you have it, John, by any chance? Yeah, I have the number three market up. I'm going to try and have the current pick in the next one cuz again everything is moving so fast. Yeah, they moved out the picks. They're flying. Um yeah, third pick. Love it. So, love it. 36. Well, no, I'm sorry. Love. Man, it's just flying everywhere. Okay. Love 31, Reese 58. That's how fast it was moving it was. Now it's 40 and 70 respectively. 2970 4269. So yeah, there's a there's a lot of action and I I think in an information driven market like this where everyone thinks, oh, anybody could just leak it and everyone will know. It's not that simple. So we're looking for clues, but when you see back and forth, there is some constonnation there, right? There is, right? We that that's the the infighting between the bids and the sells. Um EJ, I'm going to do rapid fire here. Hakee Mador, top 15, Miami pass rusher, 25 years old. Yes or no? A lot of those top 15. I don't think I see a lot of Bucks. I see a lot of him. 15 to the Bucks is a popular mock draft spot, but first round. First round, I think. So, top 15 a little high for the age, but he's he's a game wrecker. Uh, okay. Uh, CC Malinoa, what do you what do you think? Uh, would have been the top. He should be a top 10 guy. I think he has value both as a right tackle. If you want to move him to guard, fine, but I think he could be fine as a pass as a pass protector as well at right tackle. I think he fell in the last day and you saw it in the markets big time because of his back I think. Yeah. But then somebody somebody was reading uh uh Spencer Fondo the number one tackle now was uh his numbers were falling a little bit in the markets. So watch them. Uh Carson Beck uh there's there are a lot of fun Carson Beck markets there. Carson Beck versus this guy. You see him uh a day two guy rounds two or three. Yeah. Uh I'm I'm circling the Browns there. Todd Mckin coached him at Georgia and apparently Mar not apparently Marry Chrisall when he recruited Carson to the U he called Todd Mockin to get the word on what Carson Beck was about and Mon loved them. So I think if you're looking at a day two pick if the Browns have one I'm not sure I don't have it in front of me but that's going to be the team I'm circling uh for a team that definitely has a lot of quarterback questions. There is a market by the way for over two and a half quarterbacks in the first round. It's great. It's a great number. It's a big long shot. Any chance Carson Beck sneaks in the first? That's been rumored. Yeah, there are some Carson Beck stands out there in a big way. I think it's crazy, but EJ, any shot? I think there's a shot. I I think something crazy is going to happen tonight. And I think Carson Beck throws a beautiful ball. He performed really well at the combine. I think he performed well at the pro day as well. And teams like what they like. They like a big athletic, you know, not not really that fast, but no, a big strong guy who can throw the ball and make all the throws is what Carson Beck can do. and somebody's going to maybe get convinced that they can coach themselves, coach him up to to run NFL offenses. It would not shock me. It would not shock me at all. John, we got a pick at three. I understand. Yeah, it looks like the pick. It says the pick is in. I don't see it reflected yet, but if the market is on it, you would think it would be Love because Love just shot up to 99% to be the third overall pick, which you know, flies in the face of all the luxury pick stuff I was talking about, which just goes to show you how just how just how unpredictable this stuff is. Again, the very best mock drafter in the world is going to nail like 25 to maybe 28% of these, which is not that great. So, you got to be confident in your own work, have your process, and then go back and grade it. And if anything I think would be interesting is in this new age like you were mentioning Drew of information miss and disinformation tracking the sources right which source was close not to say who nailed what pick where directionally pushed us the right way and I think that's the best you could do it's not so much a sniper rifle as like a cannon shot. Yeah. Uh, all right, EJ, before I let you go, um, yeah, any chance the Jets come back and get Tai Simpson with their second pick, or somewhere down the road? I think Tai Simpson is a day two odyssey for the Jets. It seems like, from what I'm hearing, a lot of it's going to be defense first, which we saw with Ree, and then they're going to find a wide receiver to go opposite Gary Wilson, which is also a desperate need for them. right now the only guy they got right now is Adani Mitchell. Um who we all know is kind of like a you know kind of a shot in the dark in terms of whether or not he's going to be a real NFL player. So they need to get help on the outside. I think that's where you're looking at a Carnell Tate if he falls Jordan Tyson or someone like a Mai Lemon. So I would think if if Simpson's going to be in play, I look at him maybe day two. I also think Carson Beck may be a guy to look at at that spot as well because he he fits the profile of the kind of quarterback Frank Reich that new offensive coordinator would like. Tall quarterback. Yeah. make all the throws. It would make a lot of sense if that was a fit for them. You know, EJ, I I hate to disagree with you on this one, but uh I was I wrote a column for Athlon saying that there's no way Ty Simmons the first round pick. Peter Shger today put out a mock. He's this last mock had him at 32. And then he came on the TV today and said, "I screwed up. He's going higher. Someone's trading back. He's this year's Jack." That's what Shrager said. Shrager's been really good the last couple years talking about John saying an expert who seems to be leaning right. our friend Peter Shrager has been on it. It does look like Tai's going a little higher. So, um yeah, I know. I'm surprised, dude. Especially the second half of that year. So, all right, EJ, it's a big night for you. Uh I gotta let you go. Uh our buddy R.J. AO is coming on to talk Cowboys. Shout out to RJ. Yeah. Oh, we're so fired up. And then your friend Maggie's coming on later, but uh Oh, man. dude, you and I uh we're gonna have to put aside a half hour this weekend to talk hoops. John, this guy, he I can't even tell you his passion for the Knicks. Uh John and I John's a reformed Knicks fan, just so you know, EJ. Okay. He just he had enough at a certain point. My kids. Well, listen, I know you're a good friend because you got me on literally at basically halftime began for this mix game and then I'm getting off right when So, this ended up perfectly for me. Tell me about the pods that people can find you on too right now. What What are you working? Yeah. Yeah. Make sure you guys search New Generation Podcast Network wherever you get your podcast. We have multiple uh shows we have. We have uh Hero Talk which is our superhero podcast. We have Sports Talk was our sports podcast. I have a live stream show that I do. Uh orange, excuse me, 40 days in counting. Uh that's a sports pop culture show. We have Orange and Blue Bloodoods. If you're a Knicks fan, search Orange and Blue Bloods wherever you get your podcast to get uh that content. And uh obviously if you're going on YouTube to watch our video stuff, New Generation Media and New Generation Media is where you'll find all of our stuff. It was great uh hanging out with you guys. This was a lot of fun. EJ, thank you so much. I love it. We'll talk soon. Uh that's EJ Stewart, formerly my producer Maggie and Pearlof show. Uh a lot of Miami Hurricanes on it. He does owe that team really well. Gosh, things are going uh we did mention Ruben Bane. I I got in I got in on Ruben Bane early, not to brag John. And now it's as a top 10. Now that's gone up to 76 cents. So it looks like that is on Cali. It looks like Ruben Bane uh is doing really well tonight. Should go top 10. To be honest, I I thought he should have been all along. Uh anything in the markets, Sean, that's really standing out to you right now? I'm sure chaos. Yeah. Monster move at at the four spot where we're waiting now. I think obviously the market was not ready for the picks in the order that they went. Yeah. And who just shot up that would be it looks like Cardell Tate just shot almost. Yeah, it looks like that's got to be that looks like it the pick is in. And if I had to guess, there's your answer. It looks like Tate is gonna go to Tennessee, which again, another kind of luxury pick. I don't know if they're really ready for that. I would have built from the in I I'm old fa call me oldfashioned, right? Get me my leather helmet. Like that's how I think I would just I build from interior out. Give the skilled players a way to survive 17 games. I feel like that's also part of the equation. We throw these guys, you know, you put a Ferrari into the demolition derby, let's say. Yeah. But I mean, the Titans have drafted about a 100,000 offensive linemen. So, and none of them have been that good. So, I kind of understand this. They did draft Cory Davis several years ago. I think it was 2017 and number five, and that was a big, but they've already invested in the first round and Peter Scransky, I think it was around 10. JC Leam was six or seven. So, they they've been investing in there and they signed Dan Moore. They have been investing there. They just it has it all come together. I think that's coaching too to be honest. Cardell Tate is awesome. Mecha Buka made him a lot of money. Okay, this next one is really interesting. Number five, pick number five is like a pretty even looks like a three dog race right now. We're flipping favorites. So, this is another situation where you ask like when do you pull the trigger? When there's uncertainty, as our good friend Nando Defino would say, chaos is a ladder. Right now, now is the time. So if you have a pick that you like, you wait for the lowest possible price and jump it because Downs, Reese, Styles are all kind of jocking for position. I mean a and it makes a lot of sense. I would almost be at the point if you're getting Reese, it's coming, right? It's you're going to get it either this one or the next one. So man, premium picks, anybody that was betting the under on these high picks, right? Well, I guess yeah, under pick five or lower than pick five were the big winners kind of being bearish. Look, I have to take my L's because again, I would be getting the big beefy interior lineman or edge rushers. Give me a left tackle or a premium position. Something that's really difficult to find, you know, at all. It's difficult to find in next year's first round, let alone the later rounds of this draft, you know, but again, everyone loves the the shiny, you know, kind of flashy ball scorer, and I get it. They get all the chicks for a reason. You know, it's interesting you're talking about positional value. Caleb DS who I believe is uh falling if I'm reading the chat right he a lot of people have him at number 10 to the Giants John Harbaugh has Kyle Hamilton people are like he's got a great safety in Baltimore Kyle Hamilton and Kale D I watch a lot of Kale DS they're two completely different players Kale DS is tiny Kyle Hamilton's a linebacker and a safety and a quarterback he's everything he's he's only like the best most versatile Yeah single impactful player in basically all of football. Is there another defender that can quite literally dominate at all three levels? You guys, you can't get me started. He's my favorite. Well, people, they say there's a new, you know, Derwin James started it, then Kyle Hamilton took the torch, and they think Sunny Styles, who started out at safety at Ohio State, could be the next guy who sort of can play any position. I love Kyle Hamilton. You mean the injury's got to bother you, though? That that's But Kale Kale Downs is small. He he doesn't fit that at all. So, I wouldn't be surprised if he fell. safety. You don't want to pay a ton for the safety. I watch him go with the next pick. But I actually I uh I went with Kale Downs below 10 earlier in the week. I think that's doing really well right now. Uh but we'll see who follow up. Um all right. Uh we should have Okay, looks like five is settled. Yeah. Re and again I'm just going to chime in whenever when you see the jockeying turn to near certainty, right? When it when it goes 52 52 99 and the pick is in, you pretty much know the answer. So it looks like the fifth pick is gonna be Avar Reese. That's what it looks like. He's at he's at 99 right now. Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense. I mean, he probably could have gone higher. Okay. So, five Arl Reese to the Giants. You know that that means they trade uh they trade Kavon Fibido. That makes a lot of sense. We kind of kind of saw that coming. Uh I don't know if you're a Giants fan. Are you excited about this one? I am not a Giants fan, but I am I'm just excited about football. I just love football because guess what? We get to bet on all 32 teams and uh I'm not You can't make me say anything nice about my Jets. Giants are a lot of fun. Uh Giants Giants are an interesting team. I actually think there's a little bit bubbling under the surface there. I think they're upset that love didn't fall. Maybe they fell into the trap that I did thinking teams might do like the more rational oldfashioned thing and they they didn't. Yeah. I mean, I was a little Yeah, I was a little disappointed. I'm an Eagles fan. I was hoping the Giants would sort of prepare him for three years and give him to us in four years and then he'd lead him lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl. Um, all right. Noo. What do we got going on here? I understand. Oh, everybody's arriving. One of the seven oracles uh is here. Dane Martinez. Yes, finally kids asleep. You ready to go on some draft work? Are you ready to go, buddy? We are absolutely ready to go. And I actually think this the pick that just happened, Tennessee going with the wide receiver out of Ohio State, Carell Tate, actually really does impact some of the markets out there, right? Specifically, the amount of wide receivers that may go in round one. We have always talked about Carnell Tate. We talked about Jordan Tyson. I had a video up on Jordan Tyson being in the top 10 that dropped earlier on, right? And we knew that there was a lot of wide receivers from Tate to to to Lemon to obviously Tyson and then guys like Boston Conpsion and others, but nobody really mocked the Tennessee Titans to be drafting one of the wide receivers. A lot of people thought maybe Jeremiah Love would fall to him at number four. A lot of people thought he would get one of the Ohio State defensive players, right? Whether that was Reese or Styles. And so the fact that now Tennessee has grabbed one of these wide receivers, I think just pushes everybody up because a lot of these wide receivers, the Omar Coopers of the world, the Denzel Boston's of the world, even the Casey Concepts of the world, and dare I say the Chris Bells of the world could even still be first round picks. So, I know we have been talking about a lot of markets, but I truly believe the over now in the wide receivers is definitely something we should be looking at because Tennessee just added one to the tally that most people were not expecting. Yeah, it's a great point. I saw a stat yesterday. The over is hit once receiver in 20 22 24 and 25. And I agree it's going to be 26. I've gotta bring in RJ AOA too. Blogging the boys, my good buddy, because uh this is a night about the Cowboys, dude. There is so much going on with your team. Uh nobody knows the Cowboys better. Talks about them every day. Talks to the people. R.J., uh I think the big news is George Pickkins signed his franchise tag. Is he getting traded tonight? I don't think so. Um just from a literal standpoint because I don't think he actually literally signed it. I think he just declared his intent to do so. And so without that, you know, particular detail, he can't be traded. Um, and I think that, you know, anything is possible certainly and until Jordan Tyson is fully off the board, I don't think that you can count anything out. But yeah, it does feel like the Cowboys are enjoying the attention that comes from all the moves and the things that they have and haven't been doing over the last 30 hours. R.J. what Dane was saying about the uh over on receivers Cowboys receiver. Uh is it a matter of who's there when they pick or do you think that they are really they're 12 and 20? Do you think that at 12 do you think a receiver is possible? I mean we've kind of talked about that if if they get wiped out right if and and right now things are are kind of looking well for them. we're still, you know, early in, right? There's still what, seven picks to go, whatever, um, until they're on the clock. But, I mean, if if the the blue chip six premium defensive players are gone, obviously Carnell Tate is gone now, but if Jordan Tyson is there, you you have to have that conversation and and you have to be committed to a future without George Pickkins obviously at that point in time. Uh, but it's something that has made sense. And maybe it is a matter of trading back from 12 to somewhere. If somebody wants to come up a little bit and you feel like the value is better, you're able to get something else out of it. They don't have a second round pick. They only have a third, which they got in the O City Zooa trade. Um, but I I I don't think you can rule it out right now, even though George Pickkins is intent on signing the franchise type. All right, R.J., uh, one of the, uh, like most talked about mock draft picks, Malachi Lawrence to the Cowboys, probably at 20. Everyone knows they love the US UCF pass rusher. Any chance, first of all, is that true that I think it's so funny that they're going to draft a guy named Malachi Lawrence and they had Demarcus Lawrence for so long. Uh what are you hearing out of Dallas on that player and any chance they jump up to 12 and just take him at 12 because they love him so much. By the way, talking about I got in on him early because everybody's been talking about that pick. Yeah, my dog Bear uh is he gets pumped when the Bears are involved in stuff. So, apologies. Um he refused to get out of the office a minute ago. He was acting like a jerk. But um to to your funny point, the Cowboys also drafted Demarcus Lawrence immediately after letting Demarcus wear go in free agency. So the the continued like Indiana Jones replacing of the Idol would be funny. Uh I think that because the Cowboys don't have that second round pick, whoever they they take at 20, if they do just kind of sit and pick at 12 and 20, we're going to see them have to reach on somebody. We're going to see them have to one of these picks at the very least, especially if they go offense at 12, is going to have to be on the defensive side of the ball. They were historically bad last year. And the Micah Parsons jokes write themselves, but um given who's likely to be available at 20, it makes sense that Malachi could be a guy. I think they like him relative to the value that he would offer at that particular point. Obviously, they like other pass rushers from a pure rankings perspective. What about uh I don't know if there's a market on the top quarterback. It seems like quarterbacks a definite need. Uh if you had to guess which quarterback the Cowboys might be looking at, who would it be? I don't want to spoil anything, but u one of them appears to have have just gone uh a moment ago. Um, and so I I think that, you know, they were connected to Jam McCoy for so long with the injury concerns, it really kind of spooked everybody and I think they're off of that. I think right now everybody recognizes they have a need and everybody thinks that Chris Johnson could be another name at 20, right? Like depending on where they go at 12. Um, and so I don't know that especially now that they're going to be able to to come away with a corner prospect at 12 that isn't a massive reach. That's why I think right now everybody's kind of just hoping they can hold on and that maybe Caleb DS does fall. That that's kind of the if you look in the middle of the ven diagram of positional need prospect who's a blue chip obviously, you know, talent and whatnot and and people or players, excuse me, who could potentially fall like like something that is within the realm of possibility even if it's far-fetched. That's the answer that most people have landed on. RJ, we just got a note from the producer. Mansour Delane is shooting up. Uh he's mocked by some really smart people, the Cowboys at 12. Uh, I believe they've had some LSU defensive backs in the past. Uh, are you hearing that name coming from the Cowboys? Yeah, so the Cowboys haven't traded up in the first round since 2012. And and when they did back then 14 years ago, it was for a different LSU corner in Morris Clayborn. So that's a a bit of lowhanging fruit. He makes sense, right? I mean, this is a team that that cut Trayvon Diggs and moved on from him and they paid Don Bland because they wanted to make everybody forget about trading Micah Parsons a week before. They they have a serious need there. And I think that you you have to look at the Christian Parker presence and the fact that he is this defensive back guy. That is his specialty. And yes, the Cowboys went out and signed Jaylen Thompson in free agency and gave him a general defensive back to work with. But they really need a solid corner for him to kind of build the back end of his defense around. And so I don't know if they're going to be able to come away with one in in this particular round, but but they're definitely going to have to come away with some before tomorrow night is over at the very least. All right. Be there. I don't think he's going to be there honestly for the Cowboys. And it looks like we have a trade and this could be it. This is why I think Dellay could be shooting up. It looks like the Cleveland Browns have traded out of number six with the Kansas City Chiefs. And part of the reason I don't think that uh Delane is going to be there is because I always thought Kansas City was hot for Dellay. Remember, they traded McDuffy over to the Rams. They let their other corner go. And to me, this speaks to potentially the Chiefs trying to hop other teams that may have been in the market for Dellay. I think this could be the pick here at number six. It could be the quarterback. And when we see these huge moves over on Cali as well, that huge spike up for Kansas City, this could be the reason. So whether it is here or not, because to be honest, guys, I think there's plenty of other teams that could be in the market for the top corner on the board, including another team ahead of the the Cowboys would be Cincinnati as well, right? Who would also obviously have a need on the defensive side of the ball. So while I think Delane would be a great fit for Dallas, I just don't think he's going to still be there come 12. And to be quite honest, now that the Chiefs are in at number six, this could be where Delane hears his name. All right, R.J. I know you got to go before the a few picks before the Cowboys go. You want to take a last stab? Say they stay at 12 and 20. Uh, you want to throw out a couple names? I think right now the hope is that Caleb DS does fall. I I think that that's what everybody's kind of crossing their fingers that the the Giants obviously have two picks. Um, but but one of them is in and that was one of the main bullets that the Cowboys were going to have to dodge. Um, so everybody's kind of rubbing their their rabbit's feet and stuff like that right now. But if it's not him and Sword Delay was somebody who a lot of people kind of thought could be an emergency option. And if not DS, I mean, we're at a point now where it does seem like somebody's going to be there. Maybe Sunny Styles falls. I mean, I think at the beginning of the offseason, if you'd asked Cowboys fans to say, "What's the biggest position of need," it would have been linebacker, but but nobody ever I mentioned the ven diagram, there was that practicality circle there. Nobody ever practically thought that Sunonny Styles would make it. And so, I'll I'll say one of those guys because I'm trying to manifest it more than anything, but but I do think if they get wiped out and they aren't in love with the Jordan Tyson idea, I think they also could benefit from trading back a little bit to pick up some more capital because they obviously don't have a second round pick. I'm gonna say Caleb Dons and hope that I'm right in about an hour. Awesome. R.J., when are you going live? Uh, after the draft tonight or Yeah. I mean, because the Cowboys have multiple picks, you just don't know, right? It's one of those things where maybe they're, you know, you think you're safe after 12 for 30 minutes or 45 minutes, but then they they get itchy. They get, you know, kind of, you know, idle hands with that 20th overall pick and they want to move up. Or say you get ready at 20. I mean, you know how it goes better than I do. And they trade back. I think that a lot of people expect them to if Downs does fall to 12 or Styles falls, if they get one of those, I can't believe this really happened to us, then they really need to trade down from 12. They really have to all of a sudden turn that into some more premium assets. And so that affects what time I'll be doing things, but I've got a million prewrites and I'm trashing them as we kind of go along, different players and stuff like that. It's a fun, hectic night, but I appreciate you guys having me on for a little bit. R.J. love talking to you. Just had a chance to catch up. Awesome, buddy. Hey, uh, make sure you wish Wimby some luck. I know he's your guy. The other thing that's interesting about this trade, the Browns going down to number nine. In my opinion, I know there's markets out there for this. If Benny and Nando can grab it for us in the back, I think the Browns are going to wind up with a tackle. They're I think they're going to go O line. And part of the reason I think they now feel comfortable going down is because again connected to Tennessee and some of these other teams that may have taken an O lineman, you got guys like Maui Noah still there. You got Spencer Fo still there and the idea that they can have more than one lineman that they are comfortable with still available at nine allows I think Cleveland to go back. So if there are markets out there for the Cleveland Browns to select an offensive lineman. I think that is a good play at all as well. The last thing I would say is this Chiefs pick is in I think could be Delane. It could also be the playmaker Jordan Tyson that would be the next guy that people may need to go up for. But Cleveland, I think a safe bet here could be the offensive tackler. It looks like FO is at 52%. Maui Noah is the second choice. Offensive tackle could be it. And then Andrew, we were absolutely correct. The Chiefs have selected the cornerback out of LSU, Mansour Delane. There you go. Uh makes sense. Uh as you pointed out, they lost all those guys. They lost four like kind of back back five guys. I was surprised. I was watching that before. Uh Dane, picking up one thing you said about the offensive lineman. When do you expect the offensive line run? It feels like there's going to be you you heard the storyline that there's not a lot of depth, but there's a lot of good first rounders. Uh I actually don't have is the line seven and a half in the first round? Um for offensive linemen? Uh it feels like you know John was saying this earlier like when it comes down to it you really want to build the trenches. Oh yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I mean we know some of the tackles that are going to go right. We're talking about Maui Noah. We're talking about FO. We're talking about Proctor. But I will also say in the teens one of the things that I'm going to be watching is the guard Vega Iani out of Penn State. This is an absolute stud lineman. Didn't give up a sack. didn't give up a quarterback hit at Penn State. And you know, when you factor in some of the interior offensive linemen, if you have the number at uh six or seven, Andrew, I think the the thing you're going to need to watch, the tackles are going to go. Ian is the number one guard, interior lineman off the board. The second one is a guard out of Oregon named Emanuel Pregnon. And I think he is really going to be the lynch pin. A lot of people see him as maybe a late first round pick or an early second round pick. So, I think that's going to be the one there on the fence that really tilts that one way or another. But the Commanders are on the clock. A lot of people have been talking about them at wide receiver potentially as well. Jordan Tyson is now up to 65% to be this pick for the Washington Commanders to pair with Terry McLaren. I know they wanted Jeremiah Love, but there was no way that Love was going to fall all the way down to seven. But I do think offensive side of the ball here and Jordan Tyson is the favorite at 65 cents. that could still be a value because I do think a lot of times Washington was mocked to offensive weapons. Yeah, I saw a lot of Carnell Tate going to Washington. I mean, I think it's funny. Uh I'm getting a lot of texts. Everyone said the same thing. I didn't see Tate going number four, but I sure like that pick, which is really funny. Uh yeah, John, what are you seeing out there? You you seen any big swings that are surprising you at all right now? Yeah, as Dane was going, it looks like seven flipped all the way to Styles. That one's in. He went up to a 99. Okay. It's not to it's not to speak with too much certainty, right? But yeah, you got to watch the ticker on these things and that's what we were talking about before, Drew. If you have a take as the kind of markets are fighting, that's when you got to get in because the spike happens immediately and it's kind of decided, you know, right? There's I don't think anybody you'd kind of be crazy to go take the other side of that now. So, Styles falling to seven. I mean, that kind of made sense. I thought Washington might be looking to add wide receivers. I don't think they had Styles dropping. Maybe they figured we could get a pass catcher later on. And it's not like they're totally draft. They do have T-Mac out there. So, it's not over for the Commanders. So, that's a big pick. U my guy Dane mentioned Tyson at eight. I already had a trade in on that one. As things started shuffling, this happens. This goes back to something that Gan was saying. We we kind of have an idea of how the first seven may go, six may go, but not the order. And outside of that, I still I had Tyson to the Saints from the RIP. So, it kind of to me felt like there was all this chaos, all this chaos. The thing I had my eye on in the first place still kind of sitting there. So, I got a I got a great price on it and I made that move. So, I'm in agreement there um for eight and then wait nine real quick. It was back to the Browns and I'm with Dane also. I kind of sprinkled on the different O linemen. I'm not going to pretend to know the difference. None of us know what's going on in those war rooms. And there's often times we're correct about the position and the need, but we get the player wrong because who knows what's going on. So, if you can get money on ve I like I just saw Vega right now was plus 450. There's a chance it's him. I like that cost. Like this is to me that's how you kind of make money in these live markets. Like I said to you before earlier, Drew, if you weren't in early, you sprinkle in late on the underdogs that are realistic. Love it. Uh okay. Uh we're coming up pretty soon on the second New York, actually the third New York pick. It's a New York draft. Uh so I want to bring in uh my friend, my former co-host and future co-host, Maggie Gray. Uh Maggie, uh this is Dne and John. You will love them. Uh you guys will love Maggie. Now, you notice something about her setup there, guys. Do you notice that uh the the colors? Yeah. So, she is a uh diehard Bills fan. So, we uh we have a while till we get to the Bills, I think. Where's the table? Yeah, I've got my my Jim Kelly. Unfortunately, the the frame broke, by the way. Very intimidating to be here with oracles, by the way. I'm a big fan of Greek mythology, and you guys are freaking me out a little bit, but part of the Illuminati now. Still part of the Illuminati. Uh here's the thing. Uh can I just make one prediction? Not to be a downer here, but uh with all my Bills stuff, um mark it down. Uh Monsard Delane will have a pick six on Josh Allen in the divisional round. This will happen because draft day is the Bills biggest nightmare because Kansas City makes aggressive moves like trading with the Cleveland Browns, which might be the move of the draft so far. If he steps into the Trent McDuffy or whatever is going to happen, this guy's going to be a playmaker. Clearly Spagnolo knows what's going on and how to run a great defense in Kansas City. I thought the Jeremiah Love Cardinals pick was going to be like the major headline and it still might be. But dang, I mean, how about the Chiefs picking in the top 10 and even that's not good enough for them. They go up even higher. Course trade with the Browns and now they've got a starting corner. They clearly thought he was the best one in the draft. Obviously he is. and he steps into a starting role for you. The interesting part about that to me is that I would think that most mocks actually Kansas City could have gotten Delane staying put at nine. So what's interesting to me is that they decided they needed to go up to six to get him. And really that's just Washington at seven and these New Orleans Saints at eight that are on the clock right now. So they must have gotten wins somehow someway that they needed to hop the commanders, hop the Saints in order to get the guy they wanted because to be honest, a lot of the mocks I saw, a lot of the reports I saw, not many had mentor delay going seven to Washington or eight to New Orleans, right? So something must have happened to kind of put the fear of God in them that if they wanted to get their guy, they needed not only to just sit there at nine, but they needed to make a move up and hop New Orleans and Washington. That's the interesting part to me. Yeah. Listen, I mean, didn't Andy Reid already didn't we get this story that they knew Shawn Payeyton wanted Patrick Mahomes and this is why they had to trade up like apparently and this is many years ago. This draft intel uh from Kansas City is obviously airtight. either that or or like that's that that's probably what happened or I wonder if they were like listen we're not going to be picking in we don't think we're going to be picking in the top 10 for much longer if we if we're picking in our usual spot which is anywhere from like 27 to 32 to get up into anywhere near a top 10 we have to give we have to mortgage the future and give up so much more draft capital why not just you know take the baby step and just ensure that we get the guy we want. Even if there was a whiff that New Orleans was going to take him or whoever. Playing a little bit of devil's advocate though, isn't that where they got McDuffy and Janal and all those guys are 20 and below? They draft well at the at the bottom end at quarterback. But you're it is funny. I think I was wondering Dane to your point. I wonder if people were over mocking Caleb DS a little bit, although I see DS is still in play at certain positions. Maggie, you know, you you have the pulse of New York to some degree, too. What do you think the Giants do at number 10? I was wondering if they might try to tra uh trade out of it. Um you know I I don't know if if there's a lot of teams who are trying to trade out, but how about first Arville Reese? I mean how lucky did they get John Harbaugh might have just gotten like a little bit of magic here that they get maybe a guy who could be the best player in the draft overall possibly if he can if they can develop him and he could grow into that. I mean, this is that things are off to a really promising start, I I think, for for John Harbaugh. And I'm somebody who thinks they're a little further away than everyone else. Like, when they were talking about Jeremiah Love, I was like, we did this. It was Saquon Barkley. They weren't ready to use Barkley, I don't think they're ready now. Um, but if you're asking me if they stick at 10, I think they got to go uh offensive line, probably the interior of the offensive line, I would imagine. You got a young quarterback. You want to make sure that he's as upright as possible. And the Giants have had offensive line problems for literally a decade. Yeah. Uh John, you were talking about the big guard uh uh Vega going there. Maybe maybe they surprise people and go guard that early. Uh yeah. Uh yeah. What about the Bills? What uh are they going to try and trade out? That's what I I kind of hear a lot of trade outs there. What are they? I mean, it's kind of become their thing. Um you know, they're so close to the second round um usually and I you know, they did it last year with Keon Coleman. I could see them doing it again for sure. It's funny. The Bills are kind of one of those teams. They kind of sneaky have a few holes. You know, for a team that wins 12 games a year and is a perennial playoff team, they actually have some some pretty big holes to fill. Uh obviously defense, they were the one of the worst run defenses in the entire league last year. They've got issues in the secondary as well. Even though they used a first round pick on Max Harrison last year, he was hurt for most of the season. Um they could use help at linebacker, they could use help at safety, basically anywhere on the defense. And now you have Jim Leonard is their new defensive coordinator. So along with, you know, a head coach that has never been a head coach before. It may be one of the most pivotal moments in the in the history of the franchise with Josh Allen turning 30. You have the unknown of Joe Brady and what he's going to bring. And you have a Jim Leonard who was, you know, a great player. And I used to host a show with Bart Scott. He loved Jim Leonard as a teammate. And obviously uh we know him well, but I have no idea. I just know they need help. They need help on defense for sure. And then they also need a wide receiver, but I think you can get I think you can get one later. It seems like there's a this is a pretty good draft for wide outs. Yeah, I mean if they can recreate that 2011 Jets defense that was incredible. Okay, Ty Simpson first round. Yay or nay? Maggie, what do you think? I'm gonna go nay. I I just I think that this I think they've been telling us like Pearl, think about it. When we're doing the show and Ty Simpson, even before we knew really how hurt he was or the extent of the health issues that he was having that caused him to lose all this weight, we took all those calls from all those college football fans. We talked about college football every day. Yeah. Were we talking about Tai Simpson in that way? Was anyone excited about him? No. are filling in the gaps because there's really Fernando Mendoza and then like the mo the second most interesting quarterback in this draft is hands down Diego Pavia and I don't even know if he's going is he even sure are we sure he's getting seventh round. Oh, there's a great there's a great uh on Ky you could pick between Diego Pavia and Kate Clubnick and the numbers I actually watched it. It was close to 5050 and then it got went all Clubnick. Uh here's some numbers uh from Nando on Tai Simpson. Uh it was two minutes ago 44% chance Arizona now down to 38. Uh he is sinking a little bit. Uh I don't know Dane and John if you're seeing that too, but it does seem like Tai Simpson I still I still think it's a coin toss. I would bet I would bet yes. I think he still goes in the first. 67% to go in the first. Well, then the question is where does he go, right? Some people would say, you know, Pittsburgh could be live at 21 because of the Aaron Rogers saga. I don't think necessarily it's going to be there. A lot of people think the team that would ultimately end up with Tai Simpson could be Arizona, could be the Jets with those early second round picks, unlike last year where a team traded back into the end of the first round to get Jackson Dart. I don't think there's going to be that kind of competition. I don't think there's going to be that kind of market. So, the Cardinals who have I believe like the second or third pick in the second round and the Jets who have literally the top pick in the second round at number 33 overall. If they wanted to do that, and I don't think the Jets are, Arizona might. If Arizona feels like they could get their guy standing pat at 34 or 35, there's no need to try to trade up. And that would actually push Simpson to be a second round pick. And the number going down also to um to Leaza's point, right? It going down from the mid-50s down into the 40s. That is the trend. and he's saying, and I agree, when these things start moving, you kind of got to ride the wave and get on it early because I only think that this is going to continue to drop. So, if you believe what I say, and like Maggie said, I am one of the oracles. I don't think there's going to be a need for someone to hop back into the first round to get Tai Simpson. I would actually play the no on that side, Andrew. Okay. Here. Here, check this out. Yeah, that was all really great stuff. And I was actually getting to shop it around. My mom had told me you got to shop around, right? So you can actually get two quarterbacks drafted in the first round. No. Plus 210. So again, remember there's not so much predicting the future as if we think the odds are better than the price. I would have to say absolutely yes. That was a that was a fantastic case and a lot of push and pull there. And I think any of the uncertainty is taken care of with the plus 210. And if you watch it again, everything is so everything is so fluid in these markets that if you hate the price now, check it in two minutes. If it's not going in your direction, then you could jump on it. If not, and it's moving in the way you want, you could just follow it without executing. We call this trailing a price is so it's a way to lock in potential gains without, you know, overleveraging yourself or committing in a market where you're not ready yet. You know, again, CLB is great, but these these things are happening right now. If you have a feel and you could get a better price in 3 minutes, take the better price in 3 minutes. So, I'm going to set in a trade right now. that 207 is still locked in. So, I'm gonna take it. So, it's no for two quarterbacks drafted in the first round. And let's just hope Tai [ __ ] All right. Yeah, the numbers are moving like crazy. The guy Benny is saying on Ty Simpson. Well, it's now to plus 252 just to get an idea. Like that's again the price literally just moved. That was a 20% shift at our move. I was too slow to get it in and now I'm going to benefit from that. So, but that's how you have to do it. And one last thing, you don't have to put all your eggs in one basket even within a single trade. Meaning, yeah, uh, similar to what we were saying before, Drew, it's not binary. You can dollar cost average your way in. I like this price, but it might get better. Put a quarter of your position in now, knowing that you're going to keep adding into it if it's going in your direction. And it's a kind of way to scale things and again, keep yourself from being overlevered. That's always the most important thing, right? Living to fight another day. Uh, Maggie, I I've been watching the draft. How' the Mets do today? Oh, they were winning. Yeah. total comes back, right? Nine in a row for you, Pearl. Phil lost again today. I was so ready. Uh, you know, we we had a show for four years on Infinity Sports Radio, CBS Sports Radio, and we openly rooted against each other's teams, and I was really enjoying this Mets collapse, but my Phillies then collapsed behind them. So, let's talk football. All right, Maggie, any uh uh any any surprised we saw, by the way, um we have a pick at number eight. Uh Jordan Tyson did go to the Saints. Yeah. Uh, you know, I was thinking about something, Pearl, when you guys were talking about just Ty Ty Simpson and if he goes in the second round, remember we were talking all the time about second round quarterbacks like it's a desert. It just doesn't happen because like if you like a guy, just take him in the first round so you get the extra year, right? I think Tyler Shuck like may maybe, you know, they just obviously they like him now. They just took a wide receiver Jordan Tyson to try to help him. Um, maybe we're seeing the return. This is like but when the two-pointer came back, the mid-range jumper came back in the NBA. Maybe now we're seeing the return of the second round quarterback. Everyone wants everyone wants to be a mid-range god now. Uh maybe maybe that's the the I love it. I love it. Uh you know what my my overarching theme related to that is I think everybody's and we say this every year sitting on next year's quarterback class, but yeah, it really is. So I mean I think you're going to see a lot of decisions tonight that are really based on 2027. Yeah. to some degree. Wait, Pearl, before we go, can I ask your what's your Eagles take here? Because you guys are becoming like the New York Jets in that you can set your watch to one expose per offse. Well, listen, we were uh at the Super Bowl. I remember a lot of Eagles reporters were saying that there's like Jaylen Herz did not play ball this year. He was not not a team player. that that was everybody was saying that and it was just a matter of time till the expose came out, the New York Jets style expose. So, uh, now you got to but they they can't do anything with her, so they got to build around him. Uh, I thought I think AJ's going into the Patriots and I think they got Dante Wixs. Uh, I'm really curious if how how he uh is reportedly trying to get in on every single trade. He probably tried to get up to number six. You know, he is he is playing everyone is reporting that he's really being aggressive. Uh because the Eagles, you know, you were talking about your Bills secretly having holes. The Eagles are gonna have some holes. You know, Lane Johnson's not gonna play forever. And you know, I tell Maggie all the time, Lane Johnson is consistently the Eagles MVP. So, I hope they get a uh I hope they get an offensive lineman, but they might have to move up for it. My ideal Kaden Proctor falls to 23, which I don't think will happen. I know he has a a weight problem, but if they get a quality tackle that falls that low, then uh groom him behind Lane Johnson, then I'm in heaven. Do you think there's any chance on this earth that somehow the Eagles take Nusmeer in the first round or No, no, second. Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? Doug Nusmeer I I I saw he was an Eagles coach for how long? He was He's been around the Eagles for on and off for a long time. Well, that's what I was thinking. Everyone's like, "Well, he's with the he's with the Saints." I'm like, "Yeah, now." But he's been he was with the Eagles, I felt like, for a long time. Well, even even before he was with the Eagles, he was tied to them. I don't remember how. So, Nelspire has a long history. Yeah, of course it's how he would take a second round quarterback. Just to screw Jards. Um, yeah, he definitely would do that. Although, he might be waiting for next year, too. Uh, we'll see. It should be fun. Uh, all right, Maggie, it's great to see you. Uh, we can't say that we will have announcements coming soon. I can't wait. Uh it's great to see you. Go Bills and thanks for joining us. Thank you guys. Thank you, Oracles. Uh I'm going to take all that information you just said and go make a lot of money. So appreciate that. Yeah. All right. All right, guys. Any any uh what's the movement now? It just seems like I hate to say it, seems like chaos. Yeah. Well, the pick is in. We to be clear, Cleveland did take the offensive tackle and it is Spencer Fano out of Utah, right? So, we talked about that and remember now Fano is the first lineman off the board and that's a rarity, right? You usually have that kind of bookend cornerstone tackle in the top five. The fact that um an offensive lineman was not taken until number nine overall, I think is really interesting. Um but like we were saying early, Cleveland probably got word or an inclination that they probably like FO and maybe a Minoa and figured they could still get their pick of Guy. It is Spencer Fano at number nine. Interestingly enough, these next couple of picks, a lot of action coming in on them, right around a million dollars on those picks. Whereas number 11, number 12, where we may go back to the defensive side of the ball with guys like Bane, guys like um DS um those the volume is really a lot lower like under 200,000. So that is really interesting. Downs and Bane look like they are going to be the two defensive guys that kind of are slipping for RJ's Cowboys to still be there at 12. And if they can wind up with a Bane or a Downs, those are two names that they probably did not necessarily think they could have. So, they got to be pretty good um feeling pretty good to get one of their defensive guys there at 12. All right, big big price action. So 10 flip-flopped. You know, if you were going with Maui Noah over downs at 10, you got paid on that one cuz that one once I see the 99, I'm pretty much assuming that one is it's settled. Again, I got, you know, yolked by all the reporting that the Giants were just really not going to invite injuries. And we know that was his big bugaboo, right? I think without the without the injuries and they said there could be a surgery on deck coming. I I I would have that position myself. Maybe that's why I was so easily sold on it. I didn't think they would go that direction. Now it looks like that's a certainty. Man, he was trading at 12% like 30 minutes ago and now it's 99%. Just to give people an idea, this is ex quite literally exactly what I was talking about. I wish it was what I had picked out beforehand, but the point remains the same. Chaos is the latter. If you like the pick, you don't have to bet the farm on it, but there is potential for a, you know, ninefold pop. These are tremendous hits in real time, especially to have that kind of turnover. Now, of course, the flip side is the same. So, just everyone bet small, bet more. This is a big move that has just happened. The Miami Dolphins have traded out of number 11. Are you ready for this with the Dallas Cowboys? So, the Cowboys are now backto back. The Cowboys now have number 11 and number 12. Dallas moved up to number 11 but did not use their number 12 pick in order to do it. So they probably in my opinion with you know FO going nine with it looks like Maui Noah going 10 right that means that the Cowboys were like wait a second we can get two defensive studs still here if we go up right now. I'm telling you right now get it if you still can unless it's already at 99. This is going to be Downs and Bane one way or another. I would take that to the bank. These are two players on the defensive side of the ball that at one point or another were mocked in the top 10. The Cowboys saw them both still there and they are now pouncing. In my opinion, this is probably the clearest thing of the night along with the the Browns taking offensive linemen at nine after that trade. The idea of the wide receivers going to be a run because Tennessee added to the tally. I will bet the farm right now that Downs and Bane have to be the next two picks on a Dallas defensive side of the ball that needed help at every level. And now you get one in the front seven and in the secondary. That is wild. Uh when you said they moved up, I figured you they moved from 12 to 11. They got by the way 11. Yeah. Isn't that the trade that uh that was uh exactly what Justin Fields was 11 to 20? Uh moving from I don't know what they had to give up. I know. Maybe they did flip-flop. Maybe now they're switching it. And maybe Benny saying Field Gates is saying 12 was part of the deal, which is weird. Why are you going to move up just one spot? Well, yeah. Maybe it's because they want downs. Do you think that or or um but the thing is if you're going to if you wanted downs, Miami either wanted downs or did not, right? And if Miami wanted downs, they wouldn't make the trade. If Miami didn't want downs, Dallas wouldn't have to make the trade. Benny saying that somebody might have been calling Miami to get up there. I guess. Yeah, that makes that makes sense. Yeah, it reminds me remember to do a little history in 10 11 12 when the Cowboys and the Eagles were sitting there uh with the Giants and the C the Eagles took Devonte Smith. The Cowboys got Micah Parsons and I think the Giants traded out or what what was the 11 pick? Uh anyway, it got uh yeah some and McCarthy last year he moved up one pick from 11 to 10. So, people do move around here. Uh, yeah, that's interesting. Uh, that you got me all excited for Cowboys have Bane and Down. It was They were just late. I'm watching on ESPN. They were just late on the graphic because they had it as Dallas and then it was a while before they actually uh switched it to be Miami at 12. So, you know, Miami is not interested, I guess, in Downs because it looks like Downs is the one who has moved all the way up to 99%. There you go. Oh my gosh. Hold on. Interesting move. Yeah, just for the fact it's one of the first times, again, I'm just kind of tracking and flipping back and forth that we've had a little up and down motion, right? Meaning like a a surge and pullback. So far tonight, every surge has been met with the sealed deal, right? Every time it's gone 40, 60, 80, 99, and the case is closed immediately. So this is now 13. We're getting some like regressive price action. 13 is the Rams. So it looked like Mai Lemon was kind of running away with it. He was getting trailed by Kenyon Sadique. Now Sadique is catching up, but I mean this is more of a fantasy thing maybe. How many tight ends do these guys need? What's going What are we doing in Los Angeles over here? These Aren't there already like two legitimate athletic super athletic tight ends? I thought maybe an extra wide out might have been a bit much, but the Rams have been looking for that third, you know, a third wide out for a very long time. and you know give you time to kind of bring a youngster in and learn the system and everything. But another tight end and it could be Sadique is freakish and we've seen more and more rookie tight ends excel right off the box right right out of the gate I should say. But I I don't know for me I'd be weary of that underdog because I don't it doesn't make a lot of sense. I would go with Lemon here because when you think about it to your point they do have a ton of the tight ends. They even drafted the tight end out of Oregon last year, Ferguson, right? And when you think about the archetype of the guys they have, Pukanaku is an outside wide receiver. Devonte Adams, big body red zone, right? Mai Lemon is your slot wide receiver to a he lines up in the slot all the time. You know, I when talking about wide receivers, I don't know if you guys are a fan of early US history, but there was something called the XYZ affair, right? And you have to have your X, your Y, and your Z. And I think Lemon would kind of be the missing piece in terms of the body, the size, the role of wide receiver. So I hear you. A lot of people are falling in love with Sadique. I think Sadiq could be live for the Ravens at 14 if you want to know the truth. But I think Lemon could be the pick here. Um, if the Rams do in fact go offensive weapon. Dane, can I go play a little devil's advocate on Mai Lemon? He's only a slot, right? Like I feel like in today's NFL, even like a JSN, like Yeah. I mean, you gota you got to line up at X sometimes. Like I feel like take a case and he'll line up all over the place. Lemon I saw a number Lemon's terrible against man for what it's worth. Not that you see as much man anymore. Like he's just a pure slot. Is that a downside? Um maybe because like you got to have the right system. And let's face it, he he was in the Lincoln Riley system. I don't I don't know. I think you know I think it's a fair point, Andrew, right? But the way I'm looking at it is I look at what they already have in Puka and Devonte. I look at you already have an MVP quarterback on the 17th hole of his career. You look at McVey being able to kind of scheme it up. This is a team that many people were thought were the best on paper last year. I think they are the current favorites to win the Super Bowl, right? And I think they view themselves as that one offensive piece away. They made all the moves, the McDuffy move and all that on the other side of the ball, right? And to to um Legaza's point, a tight end I think is an embarrassment of riches over there. Like the thing that actually is the value ad for that offense and just because the Rams are so close and Stafford is so close to the end, their window is right effing now. So I think Lemon, while you're right, he may be only a slot, but if they're saying that's the one piece we need, I think given the the confluence of circumstances, it would still be him. Yeah. Nando is saying 77% to the Rams, 59% to TB or to Tampa Bay or New Orleans. So, it doesn't feel like Lemon's going to be around for very much longer, whatever, whatever team it is. Uh, I actually had him I invested uh under 15 and a half on Lemon just because I thought of the size. But no, no, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Over. I I I lost. I I will lose if he goes. Well, that's where the tape pick hurts you. The tape pick going for hurts that idea. Yeah. Dne was mentioning a pick that I really like and again right we want picks that we like that we think fit stylistically and within the organization you know Baltimore and tight ends go together like being and they got rid of likely so I coming in I thought the Sadi pick was very realistic right now he's only at 20% so you can get a plus 373 on what I thought was very realistic right now Vega um Vega is starting to surge to go to Baltimore man everybody can use offensive line help. I didn't think of that as their weakness. You know, they're they're also very good at scheming, but all their yards before contact metrics were all pretty strong. Again, you can never They lost Linder Bomb in free agency. Their Pro Bowl center. Yeah, they got to replace. Oh, so maybe maybe that maybe that's a part of it because again, that surge in Vega, if we've learned anything today, again, these momentum plays have kind of gone all the way to the window. So, I'd be a little bit weary, but we do have a couple picks and could get a surge. Although, got a note from Benny that Tyson just shot up to 99% for the number 13 pick here. That would be the Rams. And this is like the other side of the coin. I was just selling a guy like Mai Lemon. Why? Because Matthew Stafford has only one or two years left and the window is now. That would be one way to play it. try to do it now when you still have an MVP quarterback. The other way would be planning for life after Matthew Stafford, which would be what they would be doing here at number 13 if they went Tai Simpson. Let me tell you something though, Legaza. This idea that it shot up at 99, right? This could be because the thing is it's only $175,000 market in value, right? So, while I'm with you, the 99%'s usually close. Could you see this being an opportunity of pumping and dumping trying to get Simpson all the way to 99 and then all of a sudden it still is actually like a lemon. Now it's up to a $275,000 market, right? But I'm with you. When you have the MVP quarterback on the last year or two, I don't think you get a successor right now because your window is right now. And just judging on the volume of this market, I wonder if there's some manipulation going on right here, Legaza, you know what I mean? To try to get that and then come in huge on the other side. As someone who bet the plus 250, no, you know, no second quarterback in the first round. I had to go back and throw a dollar on the plus 9300 that it went to now because again, every action has an equal and opposite reaction. And now you shouldn't say, "Well, I'm going to put the put the farm on it, but that trade, this is a good example because we're going to have losers." Given that one, you should you should put a small fraction, not to say doubling down because a physical double down, but if you had 10 bucks on the first on the plus 250 to put even 50 cents on the plus 9200, you have to because again, like you said, yes, correct. I I maybe I was leaning into the momentum a little bit really just the way it's played out today. But that's also been with the pick on the clock or next with the two pick spacing. Anything could still happen. So yeah, I went back in on it just in case. I that 13 feels wild to me. It really does. I'll tell you, you know, there was a note we talked about Peter Shreger put Simpson at 32, then came on ESPN and said, "Sources close to me have said I was way too conservative on Ty Simpson." And everyone knows if you know Peter Shreger, he is super tight with Shawn McVey. I mean that is I mean that is as close a relation well I'm not even gonna get there as close a relationship as you have a reporter and an organization. No but uh no I mean Peter is really tied in with the Rams and the way he said it because I known him a long time I was like oh that seems like a signal so maybe there really is something and you know Ty Simpson was originally linked to the Rams that's been around because the Rams have been looking at quarterback and it makes sense to groom him for a year behind Steph but and by the way Jean Clemens is back. How was it? How you do? How'd you do with Big Blue? It was fantastic. It was fantastic. Love the two picks. Um I just want to go and re and recap. I said Mayhem was going to start at second at number two. It did. Right. David Bailey went number two, hit the trickle. Who goes at number three? Jeremiah Love. So if you got that Jeremiah Love in there, then you were able to cash out with me. I'm I'm you know, put the put the put the dollar signs in the chat if you cashed out with your boy. I appreciate it. Um, I I think the trickle down from that was Arll Reese, who I never even thought was going to get to five once this process started, but he was the one that I had said early on, hey, Arll Ree with the Giants as an offball linebacker. That's what I think he should go. And then immediately they they drafted Arll Reese and said, "We're not trading Kavon Tibido, which means he's playing offball linebacker. He's not they they've got they've got four edge rushers if he's playing ed edge rusher. Right. So now you've got an offball linebacker who's going to be really adept at coming downhill and thumping. That was the knock on Sunny Styles. The knock on Sunny Styles. He wasn't a thumper. Well, guess what? Arville Ree is standing up 300 pounders. He's going to have no problem getting into the NFL and running the over. So, um um shout out to them. And then at pick 10 to get Francis Maui Noah who is my I believe he is the second or my third rated offensive lineman on my board. Um an onway is the is number one for me. If I was going to pick a guard like or if I was going to pick a offensive lineman I would just wait and get him. And that's why I think the Ravens are about to get a coup because they're probably going to get on Yaneway. Right. So I I I look at what's going on right now. I sprinkled a little something on on Yaneway about it right right when I came on here because again I want to have action going in in in four, you know, in four pick increments. I want to have I want to be getting in on the on the market. Um Benny was Benny was telling me that this is I was trying to figure out what this was like and he was like this is like day I was like is this day trading? He was like yeah it's kind of day trading right? This is getting in and getting out quick. And so that's what I wanted to do. I put some money um I put some money and I invest invested in in Jeremiah Love. It hit. I'm taking the I'm taking that value and I'm going to throw it on on on Yaneway and see if I can't make that make that money make sense on another and then I'm going to look to keep on finding where the market in correction is and I want to get in there early. I'm still waiting for one of these like big defensive tackles to go. And the longer that it goes, the more I think there's going to be a back-end run on them that you might want to try to get your money in and invest in. So, that's where I'm at right now, fellas. I love it. One thing, you really think that the Giants are the Giants gonna make a trade? Uh, like Kavon Thibido, is he beyond? Oh, really? Um, there was a there was a um it came out on ESPN. There was a post on ESPN that the Giants came out and said that they have no interest in trading Kavon Tibido. Now, obviously, you know, that could be a smoke screen, right? Yeah. Like, um, that could be a smoke screen, but ultimately, I think that what they're thinking is is that there's a higher upside, um, a higher upside for Arvel Reese to play offball linebacker because of how they're going to run that defense. You know, a 30 front, you're going to you're going to want Hey Wait, what did my What does my camera do? You're good, bro. It came right back. It came right back. No, no, no. Cuz it's it's it it tracks. So, it's supposed to move where I move, but for some reason it decided it wanted to move. Come down here. It's okay. There you go, buddy. Stay there. But, yeah, I think that they're they're going to want him to play offball linebacker. Um, have a thumper, a guy who can blitz from the second level um extremely well. I I also think you'll see him come down and they drop one of those edge rushers to an inside rush guy. I think they're not going to try to replace Dexter Lawrence. I think they're going to try to like recreate him in the aggregate. Okay, they're going to find somebody to be a first, second down plugger, then they're going to bring in the speed to just go all over the place. When they had when they were winning Super Bowls, remember that front? They had the NASCAR front, right? Yes. And they had all of those guys, not like a true nose, right? Whether it was Yumora or Kimanuka and they had that. So now when you have a Burns and a Carter and a Tibido and now here as well, right? They could they could kind of interchange them to pass with speed all across that front. Yeah. I mean, the only difference is that was a fourman front, so you could get away with that a little bit more. Um, and they had guys like um Justin Tuck who while while he is a an edge rusher or out or defensive end, these are legitimate defensive ends, not the new age 63, 6'4, 250 lb. these were 65 270, you know, defensive ends that they had. So, that's a little bit difference, but I think the same the same ideology is going to apply. They're going to put athletic people on the field so that you never know where the you never know where the pressure is coming from and I think that's what they're looking to do. Jean, what you think of the Chiefs training up to number six for Mansour Delay? I mean, they had to do something, right? Yeah. They lost they lost five guys. They they they they traded they traded one they traded one of their corners to to the Rams and then the other one left in free agency and went to the Rams. So it was like wait a minute the Rams just went and took all of our, you know, all of our defensive backs. We got to get a corner. We can't risk him getting to um New Orleans because I think if he was there for New Orleans, New Orleans was going to take him. And so I think um that worked out for them. It worked out for New Orleans because they need a wide receiver anyway. One of the things I think is interesting in this next, you know, Gene, you were talking about these kind of four four pick segments, right? When Carnell Tate went four, one of the things that we were talking about is that opens the door for the over to hit on number of wide receivers, right? I would say we need to watch these next few picks because a lot of people think thought that Miami was in the market for a wide receiver at 11. They did not go wide receiver. A lot of people think that the Jets for example at 16 may be mocked to a guy like Mai Lemon, right? But if Vega Ian is still there, I've seen him be in that spot as well. Kenyan Sadi could be a guy who goes whether to Baltimore or in this there is kind of a risk now that if the next four or five picks through say the Rams were also thinking about wide receiver, right? If these next four picks come and Lemon has not gotten off the board yet, then all of a sudden we're still at two. Whereas we thought we were going to be over. I think it kind of self-corrects and now we're back on pace on the original wide receiver number because Miami at 11, the Rams at 13, the Jets at 16 were all possible wide receiver landing spots. So if we get through that, I would like to see how that number moves. Yeah. And Benny just said big bet on big bet on Lemon at 14. Lemon just skyrocketed to 99%. Um he's probably going to be the guy with the Ravens with Z Flowers who they just But this is a Don't This is not your This is not your John Harbaugh Ravens. This is true. This is what How many receivers do you need? Hey, apparently more. You know, apparently more. I mean, that's a real big bet going from 170,000 in that market to 300 in that market. So, that one big bet was enough to push him to 99. So, let's put let's be let's be clear here. That was one huge bet. So, that one person could be wrong. I do still believe Ian is in the mix here for Baltimore. Sadique could be in the mix here for Baltimore. But, you know, Benny's reporting also that there is huge fluctuations in that. He went up to 99 back to 74. So I might have spoke too soon. Simpson now. I might have spoke too soon. I is now at 99. That was my is in 99. My cuz my money just my money just went like this. Oh, nice. Well, I hope not cuz I want Iani for the Jets at 16. But that's Well, yeah. You're just being you're just talking about like your own personal thing. I'm trying to make some money over here. I hear you. Are you guys surprised that it would go uh like one bet could push it up to 99 and then fall apart that fast when the when the numbers are low? Like when the money is low volume? Yeah, the volume is low. It definitely can it definitely can make it make it jump like that. I'm just surprised that people are putting large amounts of money on on markets that don't have a lot of a lot of money supporting it because they can move it. It is in fact Tai Simpson for the Rams at 13 overall. Crazy. That is huge. And you know, I would love to get your thoughts on this, Gene. Right before you were coming in, I was talking about, we were thinking maybe a playmaker, maybe a guy like Mai Lemon, right? When you have the window open with Stafford at the very end, they're the favorites for the Super Bowl, but instead of trying to go right now, they instead are looking for the era parent while you have this team that is a readym made Super Bowl contender with the Super Bowl in their building this year. I think I'm a little bit surprised that they made a, you know, a a future move as opposed to a right now win it in 2026 when you have the MVP quarterback move. I'm wondering what they knew about who else was in play for him. Like that's I think that's the question is like who else was in play and said, "Hey, we want Tai Simpson." That made them think we need to take him right now. I don't like the move. Jets at 16. Yeah. I I don't like the move. They weren't going to do that. I think the Jets are in the market for the 2027 quarterback with their three. I think they're I think they're rolling for 2027 as well. Whether it's Selers, whoever it is, Steelers. Steelers 21. Steelers at 21 would have been interesting because I've heard rumblings that the Steelers were were interested in him at 21. My question still just comes back to like like why like what do what did what do people see? And and and I'm not saying that I know everything when it comes to um when it comes to, you know, um talent evaluation, but I don't see anything about Tai Simpson that tells me he's going to be like a set it and forget it starter in the NFL. And why are you taking project quarterbacks in the first round? Unless they unless they run like unless they run like Jaden Daniels or Lamar Jackson. Like you don't take projects in the first round quarterback. They It normally is is a disaster. Yeah. Normally a disaster. But Jean, does it change your mind that it's the Rams, though? It's a pretty uh smart front office, you know. Does it does it? Yeah. I think they know what they're doing in general. I I'm I'm I I I'm I'm more inclined to believe that they know what they're doing because they've made smart moves. Yeah. You can't necessarily say they've made all the best draft picks. Like Well, they haven't made that many draft picks. They did get Puka in the fifth round. Yeah, but but but that's a that's a dart throw. Like like saying we knew Puka Nool was going to be this like and and I and I would and I would also argue how many wide receivers could you give damn near 200 um targets to and them not put up those numbers? Yeah, that's true. Especially snapper throwing the ball. idea of of these heavy heavily targeted guys having having these, you know, these fantasy football just crazy numbers. I think it skews how good or how bad they are because they're being targeted so much. Like, I love Puma. I think he's great. I think he's a hard-nosed dude. Um, but I also watched him do the same thing with another wide receiver and another one before him. So, it's not like we haven't seen this formula from the Rams when it comes to receivers before. Like, we've seen it. Like, they made Devonte they made Devonte Adams into Megatron on the goal line just because they were feeding him target after target after target inside the five. Who does that to quarter? I mean, who does that to wide receivers? Like, you don't see that very often. So, I look at it and go, "Yeah, it's smart, but but this doesn't help you right now." Yeah. Right. and and everything when you're talking about smart moves from the Rams has been about about moves that make them better right now. Like they're notorious f those picks people, right? Like so they went from f those picks to no, let's get something for the future. Stafford at the very end. They're the Super Bowl favorites right now with a 30 some odd year old quarterback. You know what I mean? Like they they don't have a lot of holes. I I just pulled up their depth chart. There are not a lot of holes on that. Not a lot of holes, but I think that they could have used another receiver. That could have been Lemon, I think. And And Lemon is so good, too. Lemon. He works perfectly for what they do for Adams and Puka. Really would have um that's that's why it's so interesting when you had a Lemon who could have been the cherry on top for this offense that got outscored by the Seahawks. you know, when you have the MVP quarterback and instead you get a project to Jean's point, like you could have probably got him later on. You could have used next year's pick, you know, like by the whenever Matthew Stafford walks away, you got to reset as an organization anyway. You know what I mean? Like the window is open now. This is it's very interesting to me. Yeah. I mean, by the way, I mentioned a market earlier where quarterbacks, could there possibly be, you know, you Dane, you were saying the wide receivers, if if Tate's going four, any chance there's a third quarterback take it tonight? I know it sounds crazy. Any chance Carson Beck Nusmeer or Aller, but all those guys I think are outside of the first round. And it is Ian, uh, the the guard out of Penn State going to the Ravens at number. There you go, Gene. Yeah, I mean, that makes so much sense. It's unbel and he's he's mocked all over the place to to Baltimore. You know, a lot of guys like everyone had Lemon mocked to the Rams. Everyone and then they had Iwani to the Ravens. Uh the Bucks I I don't know what the markets are saying on the Bucks. Is there anyone front running on? They're saying now Ruben Bane because I mean listen it's Ruben Bane. Yeah, it's Bane. It's Ruben Bane. Yeah. It's a steal. It's an absolute steal. Yeah. Yeah. like and and as as a as a as a Buccaneers fan, don't tell Giants fans, they know. Anyway, um as a Buccaneers fan, it is an absolute steal to get Ruben Bane to get Ruben Bane at 15. At 15 when before all of the shucking and jing, people were talking about him possibly being the best prospect in the Oh, yeah. Early on, too. early on. There's been no football played. There's been no football played. And he went from being one of the best prospects in here to 15th. And there's been how many edge rushers taken now? This is the third one. Yep. Fourth if you want to count Arll Reese as one. I'll give them to you. It's cool. He's not going to play that off linebacker. But like like like for him to be the fourth guy off the board at 15, man, it's a steal. It's a steal. How does he fit in a Todd BS defense? Perfect. He Todd BS wants an independent pass rusher. He wants somebody He doesn't want an edge rusher. He wants He wants a defensive end who can hold up against the run, be be solid hand against the run and then who can rush the pass without him having to blitz people. Like that's what Todd BS wants. So he can play his defense in the back end and be and be conservative on the back end, right? Like that's that's the type of guys that he that he likes. And and and this guy is so heavy-handed. He like people talk about his arm length, which is so ridiculous because the arm lift thing for a defensive lineman who doesn't win with arm length makes zero sense. Like if that's the way he won, then I'd be like, "Okay, yeah, you got a point." That's not the way he won that he wins. He's a bull in the china shop. He's just going to come through there and put his put his forehead in your chest. He's going to knock you back. He's going to move you out the way and he's going to chase the running back. Now, I think this is a steal for man. Such a great Oh my gosh. Like, I'm so excited about some of these picks for some of these teams. Some of these teams are really killing it. Like, the Rams is a buzz kill, but some of these teams are really killing it right now. I haven't seen anyone other than the Rams that I was like, I don't know what these I don't know what they're doing. Like, I've liked everything. John, what do you got, man? You've been hard at work looking at the numbers. You seen any movement that's surprising you? anything interesting to you? No, there's not there's nothing here. That's why I look so data right now. Everything is dead after pick Everything is dead after pick 16. I was trying to stay a few ahead as things settled up to 100. I was trying to keep my, you know, my antenna down range and I just went on my third prediction market and no one has anything posted after 17. So, so it tells you how it tells you how crazy it is. 16 is You know what's funny, coach? That was my first instinct. Although, man, these people take action on everything, man. They take action on just about anything. There's been enough There's been enough work on this out there. Again, I I was unaware. I really wasn't thinking about trading past 17 before the draft. I was looking at getting that now. And I'm like refreshing and waiting to see if something comes up in real time. So, Drew, I'm gonna keep like scrambling. I was just again I checked a couple of different markets and none of them have anything posted for 17. So get back to me. A lot of movement now on 16 at the Jets. Yeah. Everyone knows the last chance is our last chance to make any money, man. We got to get in. Hey, so I'll tell you I I like I like some of these things are getting really interesting. Three quarterbacks drafted in the first round, right? At first that sound like it would be a like a pipe dream. But if if Tai Simpson is going, Right. If Tai Simpson goes to the Rams, then then you can't tell me somebody's not looking to grab a quarterback in the back end of the first round to to to try and secure that fifth year, right? So that they can have more control over them. It makes that a lot more interesting to me. That's trading at 19% right now. That that's five and a half on your money. So who bought that at 12? Someone here bought that at 12%. Gene, I just want to say the three quarterbacks. Yeah. I don't because there was a lot of Carson Beck chatter this week. A lot of Carson. I think there's a I think there's a chance that you might be you might be hitting in some money. Like I think you might have three quarterbacks get drafted. But you know, it's funny you talked about you watched college football. You saw Ruben Baiten even in the playoffs killing people. You also saw Carson Beck just with the body language and the you know, he does not look like a first round quarterback to me having watched him a lot. Listen, it could be Carson Beck. It could be Garrett Nusmeer. It could be Tayen Green. Like, you just don't know what some of these teams are thinking about how they want to go about like designing an offense and what they want involved. All it takes is for one one crazy LA Rams team to take Tai Simpson. And now we're we're right in the in the three quarterbacks on drafting the I got to throw something on. It's at it's it's trading. I gota I gotta throw something on it, dude. I I I'll put a little hung out with Taylor Green at the Senior Bowl. He is a He's the man by the way, but he will not go that high. Wait, what's the latest on the Jets? What What's going on here? It looks like Kenyon Sadi is zooming up all the way to 99%. Which is interesting because, you know, Lemon would fit opposite of Garrett Wilson. We talked about that slot. They already have Adai Mitchell who is another kind of downfield tall, lanky wide receiver. The Jets also used their second round pick last year on Mason Taylor. Um, they like Mason Taylor. Heck, Mason Taylor led the Jets in receptions last year, which is a crazy stat because Garrett Wilson didn't play after like week six or seven. But now they're going, it looks like with Kenyan Sadi, at least he is at 99%. And that would be interesting because maybe I mean he's an athletic freak. He's a unicorn at the tight end position from the size speed kind of combo. But the question is, would they have him play tight end or would they try to convert him into one of these big, you know, big frame mismatch wide receivers? No, he I mean, he's just he's just a less physical Isaiah likely. That's it. Yeah. He's just a less physical Isaiah Likely. Watch. By the way, um for all you fantasy footballers out here, while we're we're talking, get your Isaiah likely stock now. Oh, yeah. Like get get it right now. He's about to go bonkers in that offense for for the Giants. If you're looking for somebody that's going that's that's that's that's got top five, top three tight end like written all over him, it's that guy. Like I I I like him. I think Ken Sadi makes a lot of sense. You've got one of the most accurate quarterbacks in in the NFL, even though people don't want to admit it. It's true. Right. when he gets time to throw the ball, he throws one of the prettiest balls in the league and it gets the guys and they can catch it easy. And so like I I see this offense taking a quantum leap from what it was last year because I think they'll have better protection. I think he'll he'll he'll ma he'll manage the game better and I think his weapons will be healthy hopefully. And so, um, if if it's Sadi being added to that, I think that's just another weapon for him to be able to utilize, especially if all three of those running backs are healthy. My thought was, you know, who Sadi is perfect for, Arch Manning or Dante Moore? A tall target like that. Dante Moore, especially. Absolutely. You know, because you're building for for next year. Nothing against Gino. I hope you're right because I like Gino, but I mean, Gino knows this. This isn't this isn't a diss against Gino. Gino knows that he's the bridge quarterback to whomever the next person is. You know what? Those guys get paid a lot of money. Yeah. A lot of money. He's going to be okay. I don't feel bad for him at all. Yeah. I'm I'm not in on Twitter or anything. Is there any I know the Lions wanted to trade out was the rumor all day. What's happening at 17 there? Um feels like I you know, I'm curious. You guys see a run on lineman coming at any point soon? There's still a bunch out there. I'm still surprised we haven't seen more. Yeah. Um the fact that there's only been three, but I also think there's a run on defensive like defensive tackles coming at some point. You're you're going to see people pull the trigger on one of these defensive tackles. The the interesting part is which one and can you can you guess what can you guess which one's going to go in the first round if they if they provide some real value to you as a first round pick? Yeah. Um oh, by the way, I got a note from Benny at 18. Uh well, Dylan Theamman, the safety out of Oregon and Purdue, under 18.5 and 61 cents. Everyone has a mock to the Vikings. Is that just because he's a white safety and they had a white safety for years? And I feel like that is the only reason he's been it's why is it a no-brainer that he goes to the Vikings? But whatever. I I feel like he to me I wonder is he a bit of a workout wonder or is he the real deal? I I'm nervous about safeties. McNeel out of Toledo is another safety that could be in the mix there too. Yeah. Yeah. Like Tiana, no. Tienman is a ball hawk. Like Tianaan is actually a better like if you're talking about a guy that gets his hands on on the football more. Tienman gets his hands on the football more than Caleb DS does. Like it it's not even really close. Like Teneamman is a rangy safety and he's done it in the Big 10. He did it in the Pack 12 before the Pack 12 disintegrated and then went back to the Big 10 and did it again. Yeah. So, it's like he's done it against some of the highest competition that you can find out there. It's not a It's not a surprise. Um, but people were surprised because he's a white boy playing safety. Like, right. I mean, that's just it's just Well, they had that in Harrison Smith for a decade, right? Yeah. It's just the truth. Like, when you're a white boy playing a defensive back, they immediately think they're immediately surprised that you're fast. Yeah. Right. And so, um, being smart, Jean. Yeah. like when when you see but when you see him play he plays fast so it's not it's not surprising that you know he ran fast at the combine. I was there and it was like people were like oh my gosh that dude just smoked. I'm like did y'all not watch film on him? He's been running around like this you know at Oregon for a while. He was at Iowa. I believe he started his career at Iowa. He was running around at Iowa and then he went and ran around at um at Oregon like that with with more money in his pocket by the way. So he was weighed down by the millions and still went out there and ran fast. And the Lions uh the Lions took uh the Clemson lineman. Is that is that uh Peter Woods? No, no, no. The Blake Miller, the tackle. Oh, Blake Miller. Okay. Yeah. No, double check that. That's what I'm sort of seeing. Yeah. No, you know, again, the offensive lineman run. I think you're going to see a bunch of these guys go uh pretty soon. Um I think Detroit goes O line. You know, they listen when they were that's how they were built, right? From the inside out. They had a retirement Decker Ragna, you know, and and the idea that they can still get one of the uh one of the tackles on the market, I think. What is it? Monroe Freeling maybe out of Georgia is still there is probably No, it's Blake. Yeah, they're taking Blake Miller on Twitter, which means Penny Su will move to left tackle. Um, which makes sense. I mean, Penny Su is the best right tackle in football, right? So, you think I I mean, this is not my area of expertise, but it seems like he could transition to left tackle and be just fine. Um, yeah, that's a good pick. By the way, the Lions, like that's a good pick for them. It felt like uh their offense really took a step back last year to me. And what I'll also say, remember now I said about half an hour ago, if we get past the Jets pick and there hasn't been another wide receiver taken because we are still now at just two. Mai Lemon was supposed to be this third wide receiver off the board. He was in play as early as Miami at 11, the Rams, the Ravens, the Jets, and now you know still there's only been Tate and Tyson that have gone. So now you have to look and see who are these teams that might be wide receiver needy and all of a sudden because Sadi goes here in the Jets spot, you know, I don't know that we're going to hit that number for wide receiver. So what looked like an over on the wide receivers now I think is really interesting when you talk about a Mai Lemon, a Denzel Boston, a Casey Conception, an Omar Cooper, I don't know that there are enough landing spots. Those are the four that would all need to get drafted. In my opinion, it would go Lemon, Boston, Conpion, and Cooper, right? Those would be the four. I think I don't know if there are four homes left for them in the back half of this draft. So, I'd be very interesting, Benny Ando, in the back about number of wide receivers and the movement there because when Carnell Tate went, we really thought that there was going to be an over that that was kind of a an extra one, if you will. But Dane, I'll tell you, the Panthers wide receiver. Okay. The possibility, the Browns wide receiver, possibility. The Eagles, what possibility if the right guy is there. Uh people are mocking the 49ers, even though they signed Mike Evans. Uh the Texans. I these are there are teams that I don't know. The Patriots probably not, but there are a lot of teams at 29. Yeah. Look at it on the screen. And and I just want to say, Benny, if you could put up that last one. Did you just see the line graph though? And that's what I'm talking about. The line graph spiked up and since it spiked down. That's what I'm talking about. That spike up had to be when Tate went forward to the Titans. And ever since then, see, it's been going down. And you know that that's what I'm that's what I'm thinking right now. Um, but to your point, you are right. You know, Andrew, I could see Miami we know is wide receiver needy. I mean, 22 Atwell is their number one at this point, right? and they're at 30. I think Kansas City, some people thought that they wanted Jordan Tyson at nine, you know, and and and that that they're at 29. I think the Eagles are interesting also because all of the wide receivers the Eagles have gotten the the Elijah Moors, the Hollywood Browns, the Dantavian Wixs, they don't have a wide out that is the frame. And that's like Devonte Smith also. They don't have a bigbodied wide out. if they do in fact move AJB over to the Patriots, a guy like Denzel Boston in my opinion could be a fit for the Philadelphia Eagles there. So, you may be talking me into it, Andrew. There could be fits, but I am just I'm surprised that in the teens some of these wide receivers didn't go that Mai Lemon has not heard his name called yet. That's a great I'mma tell you I'm gonna tell you what I'm gonna do. If I don't see a wide receiver um come off this board in the next in the next couple of picks, I'm going no on four and five and six wide receivers and just taking the chance and and like instead of sitting instead of sitting back and and trying to predict what will, let's just start looking at what will not and and and start fading and start fading some of these, you know, some of these picks, start shortening these shortening these plays. this market, if you're looking at it, it it just makes a lot of sense, right? Um four plus receivers right now is is trading at 85%. Five plus%. So the no, you know what I'm saying? The no is going to is going to bring you back. No on five is not bad. Like like that's what I'm saying. It's like a no on five is going to bring you back, you know, three three no on five is interesting, right? Because you got two as a cushion. I just I just feel like I feel like at some point it it just becomes There it is. There it is. Bennett likes what we're talking about right now. Look. Look. And he's doing it right now. The no on five, you know, at third basically gives you over over 3x on your money, right? So almost 5x on your money it looks like. So and it's moving here. I I think the no on five is interesting. But Andrew is convincing me. I'm I'm intrigued by KC at 29 and Miami at 30. Let me jump in real quick. This one is time sensitive. Everyone was talking about Tianaan with the Vikings. Right now, he's listed. So, it's on the clock. So, you'd have to make the move right now. If you think he is going to Minnesota, he's paying almost 100 to one. So, somebody's wrong, right? Somebody doesn't know what they're talking about. Everybody was so into this. Remember, right now, you can't get exact player. If you put the player's name in the search bar, you could work it back with the overunder. So, I was happen to have an eyeball on it to say, "Hey, he's he was under 18 and a half." Vikings on the clock right now at 18. So, the under was at plus 9200. So, if anyone thinks he's going in the next, you know, four or five minutes for the Vikings, that's a huge spot. Although, the way we've seen the markets move, I doubt it's going to hit. But I had to put a dollar on it just because it's 100 to1 and that was everybody's like most popular pick across a whole bunch of mock sites by the way like 60% or more of all these mock drafts had him lamming there well because of I know Drew you have it was half tongue and cheek but you know cerebral kind of high IQ safety maybe Flores system you know. Yeah. No I you know but then Jean convinced me that he's the real deal. So no he's really good. Yeah. Can I this is totally random but I'm a big Casey Conception fan. I I got him in a market under 24 and a half. I know the Browns like him. Um he after what Rasheed Shahid did last year with Seattle, do you think teams might be looking at returning as part of this formula and get into Casey Concepts? I I think I think well what I said actually was talking about this um earlier on on our Fantasy Life show on LG channels. Um I think that Casey Conception is going to be a pro bowler in year one as a return man. really like I think he's that good. I think he's that good. And because the kickoff return is such a weapon now cuz the penalty for not for not allowing them to return it, like the penalty is so much that if you if you get a touchback, it's two first downs and then we're kicking a field goal, right? So, um I I think he him having the ability to return, you putting him on kickoff return, putting him on punt return, and then being able to use him um as a as a Mai Lemonesque type player. I just think there's going to be so much value there that if he doesn't go in the first round, he he's gonna hear his name called in the second round at some point. Yeah. Yeah. You know, we're talking about the wide outs. The Browns at 24 are another potential wide out spot. And if you think about, you know, and again, I'm trying to think about how the archetype of Conception, we talked about Lemon as a slot kind of guy, the shifty guy with what they already have, right? In Cleveland, you got your outside receiver and Judy, you have Harold Fannon Jr. as well, you know, kind of as a tight end. Um, Conpion at 24, I think, could be live. But then again, that's another, you know, if we're cheering on that no on five gene, you know, the we we would need Cleveland because a lot of people I thought a lot of people thought Cleveland was in the market for Tate up all the way up at six. They weren't offensive lineman first. You know, they clearly have needs at wide out as well. That could be a spot that uh is a whammy for us on the no on five. You know, it's funny, Dane. Uh Cleveland did great. They Spencer Fo was mocked to them at six. They got him at nine. This is, you know, last year they had a great draft actually, uh, despite the shador mess. They got Carson Swessinger, uh, who was incredibly productive, Mason Graham. So maybe Cleveland knows what they're doing. Although part of me as a Casey Conception fan says don't go to Cleveland because that'll ruin your career faster than anything there. I mean, unless you unless you just believe in in Sanders because what receiver hasn't been good with him? Well, you think Do you think he's ready to go by next year, G? I I just I just I just look at this. Yeah. In in Shadur Sanders career, in his in his life as a as a as a starting quarterback for a team, when have receivers not done well? Well, last year. Well, but but but even then, even then, there were there were there were circumstances behind it because the tight end went crazy, right? Like Fannon did. So, like Fannon went crazy. You you you had um um you had Jerry Judy dropping everything known to man, not running routes the way he should have been. Who else did they have at wide receiver? That's there's a reason why we're talking about mocking wide receivers to Cleveland cuz they didn't have anybody to throw the ball to outside of Harold Fannon Jr. So like Harold Fannon went crazy. If you go back to college, every rece there's six receivers in the NFL thanks to Shador Sanders right now. six of them, right? So, like at some point, we just have to acknowledge that regardless of what people think of his arm strength, of his or whatever, he gets the ball to people and they and they're able to to put up some to put up some numbers. So, I like the idea of somebody coming into Cleveland and being a a automatic wide receiver one, wide receiver two, just based off of the barren nature of that of that wide receiver group and what they have there. So, I think that's very interesting. Oh, I want to our buddy uh my buddy Zack Gel Elb is in. You know, Zach has his own show on YouTube, 365 Sports, formerly CBS Sports Radio. Um a just a full disclosure for everyone here. He's a Patriots fan who lives in New York. Uh so, he is on top of it. He solved this Mike Vrabel situation. Stop bashing Vrabel, guys. All right. Yeah. What is the uh I had the latest uh we're doing prediction markets tonight, Zach. As I told you, the latest number, it's uh 27 cents on the dollar that Frabel is not cozy by September. Any chance he's gone in New England? Uh if he resigns, that's one thing. If Robert Craft, who had his own issue, uh fires Mike Vrabel, uh that would be a joke. An absolute joke. You know, it's it's very simple, guys. The guy The guy wins football games. He's one of the best coaches in the league. I'm not condoning what he did. You shouldn't cheat on your wife. There's the hot take of the day. But you don't If we start firing coaches for cheating on their wives, a lot of coaches going to get fired in this league, you know. Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. I'm just about to say I do. Do you feel like I do where you wish we could have real honest conversations about this situation? Yeah. Cuz I I really do. Like I know if we had a conversation off air it would be a a completely different conversation about what we're talking about here. I don't know why Rousini resigned. I don't know why um you know why why you know you know why why he would resign. It makes no sense to me. And you know why? Cuz none of this has any bearing on what happens on a football field. Yeah. And here's the thing for me. Like people go, "Oh, it's a double standard. Diana Rousini resigned. Why doesn't Mike Vrabel resign or get fired? And who knows if she actually resigned or if she was issued an edict, hey, you're going to get fired if you don't resign or or pay out whatever. The bottom line is for her, it's about breaking stories and reputation. Her credibility is shot. Doesn't mean she can't go do something. She could be independent. She could resurface, get hired somewhere. Like there's going to be interest in Diana Rousini. For him, Mike Rabel, it's about winning football games. And let's be honest about it. There are people in the NFL that have done a lot worse and have kept their job and been given a second or a third opportunity in the NFL because of their talent. Mike Vrael's one of the best coaches in the NFL that the Patriots shouldn't get rid of him. I I'd be livid as a Patriot fan if they fired Mike Vrael. Can I ask a question, Zach? As a Patriots fan, do they pass out like a handbook where you can rationalize any kind of cheating or dishonesty? Like is it like it doesn't really matter what they do? It doesn't matter if they put a tape recorder in the locker room, deflate footballs, there's always an excuse. What are you talking about? There's like Noah and even and Jean, I'm sorry. And and I know a lot of you guys do work with the Athletic, but come on. I mean, here's my problem. Everybody came out too strong on the denial. They should have just waited and not said anything. Well, they shouldn't lie. People hate when you lie to people when it's so obvious. Like I showed that photo to my girlfriend and I said, "If that was me on that balcony in Sedona with some other girl, what would you think?" And she said, "I would think you're cheating on me." Like everyone know knew what was going on there. And the denial never made any sense. And the athletic defending her right away also didn't make any sense because then they had to quickly backtrack. The whole thing from a This is for PR people. 101. Do the opposite of whatever the athletic Diana Rousini and Mike Vel If you're in a controversy, it's a personal It's a personal life story. It's her life. We don't need to She doesn't have to comment to Now, do you want to get tested though, Pearlof? Because all your Eagle fans want the Patriots to get like three three picks taken away and and thrown in the kitchen sink at them. I dealt with I lived in Philly for seven years. I love Philly, but those Eagles fans today, and my mentions were nuts. Here's a here's the funny part about it, right? the there's a blueprint already out there about how to deal with this. Like like TJ Holmes and Amy Robach, they they crawled so that everyone else could walk. Hey, listen. I fell in love with somebody else. It's over. Sorry. Sorry it got out this way, but guess what? I'm with somebody else. That's the way it is. Boom. We got a trade. We got a trade. We we could have this conversation and that's all cool, right? But bringing it back to football, first of all, part of the reason you need to go to Seven Oracles is because my man Jean had Caleb Banks in the first round. He was the pick for the Minnesota Vikings. Chris James as well. Hey, shout out CJ Florida, right? The Cowboys were on the clock at number 20. They traded in division with the Philadelphia Eagles who are now on the clock. And my wondering here, we've been talking about this, Andrew, about could they be in the market for one of these wide receivers if they move AJB over to to bring it back to the Velabel, his connection with Tennessee with AJ Brown and all that stuff. Could this be Mai Lemon? The Eagles are on that was fast. Could they have been like, "Wow, we didn't expect Lemon to still be here. We didn't expect Lemon to still be here at this point. Let's go up and get Lemon." That would be interesting to me. That's where it could be. And remember, we're tracking these wide receivers cuz for a Tate made us think one thing. Lemon still being on the board through number 20 is another. Let's see if the Eagles do take Lemon. But Dane, you mentioned that they might want a big body to replace. Austin would have been, but the pick is Mai Lemon. It's Lemon. And they also jumped Pittsburgh, who was in the market for a wide receiver, too. I know they have Michael Pitman Jr. and uh DK Metaf, but they were looking to go get another wide receiver in that room. So, yeah. AJ Brown's gonna be a New England Patriot. They go get Mai Lemon at 20. Uh, that's a big splash. Big splash for the Eagles with Devonte Smith and Mai Lemon. Yeah, this AJB is gone, you know. But the only thing I don't like about it, to the point we were talking about before, Andrew, right, I would have preferred I think Lemon's a better receiver than Boston, but Boston would have been that bigger body wide receiver. Now, the Devonte Smith, smaller frame, Mai Lemon, the same, Elijah Moore, uh, Hollywood Brown, all the guys they've brought in, they do not have that true outside the number X kind of wide receiver. I thought if they stayed at 24, Boston could have been that guy, but they probably think the skill set and the talent of Lemon was just too good to pass up, even making the indivision trade. Yeah, but how is Jaylen Herz thrown to the slot? And I don't remember that being part of his game, to be honest. In fact, that's the weakest part of his game. And I know this gets into a lot of like what you know, how do you build around Jaylen Herz and who is Shawn Manion? Is it an offensive? Who was who was the who was the leading receiver last year on on the um the Eagles? It wasn't AJ. Who was the I'm sorry. The the leading the leader in touchdown receptions last year. Was it Dallas? Where does he play at? Tight end. There you go. Tight ends play where the slot. Yeah, but yeah, but come on now. Come on. Isn't Isn't Herz's big throw the outside throw to AJ Brown down the field, you know? No, his his big throw is the outside throw to Devonte Smith down the field. And this is what I think this is what I think people this is what I think people are forgetting about about Devonte Smith. Devonte Smith is a ex receiver. He's just a small body exceed. Like he's a small body ex receiver. So it's not as if they're stacking the same style of wide receiver. They're they're they're they're putting skill sets that that that that that work together. You know what I'm saying? Like Mai Lemon plays a completely different game than Devonte Smith plays. So they can complement each other. Are they are they the biggest wide receivers? No. But my good friend Emry Hunter tell you size is not a skill. And so at the end of the day, if you've got you if you've got Devonte Smith, who by the way should be on everybody's fantasy um charts cuz he's going to have a monster season this year. Like if you've got him up there and then you've got, you know, Mai Lemon working that short to intermediate area underneath where he can catch it and then just go to work, I think you got something I think you got something brewing. And Philly's going to love this guy, too. He's already crying on stage. Got a big personality. We saw that at the combine. I know it did rub some people the wrong way, but Philly loves passion. This is a dude that's got passion. AJ Brown out with the old, in with the new with M. There are a lot of rumors that he didn't interview well. A lot of rumors, but there was also like that's that combine nonsense. There was talk about like his body language answering questions and stuff like that. All I know is USC looks like an Aman Ross St. Brown kind of guy to me. Same kind of style, same school, patterns his game after that. A lot of people were making comps to Ammon Rob the Sun God. Zack, you're a Patriots fan. They never had a big X receiver. There was that except for Randy Moss year. They would zip these little guys in and out and it was fine. But they had Tom Brady. They had Tom Brady. That That's Who's the next two? You could put Poff was Rob Groonowski. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Uh speaking of the Patriots, Zack, what do you what do you see happening today here? Uh, are they a Well, they're drafting for They're drafting for the Eagles. So, I mean, yeah. Is that Do you think that's the case? You really You think You think You think they're going to get AJ Brown for a second round pick? No, but but but I think it's going to be done June 1st for a future first round pick, which might next year's draft. I I could see the Pats the Pats could use an edge rusher. They could also use an offensive lineman. I would I would be fine if some I don't think Denzel Boston will still be there at 31, but if he is there, I'm I'm kind of expecting though for them to trade back would be my guess. What about a tackle that allows you to move your tackle to guard where he should have been playing all along. I I wouldn't be opposed to it. I just still think it's early to like Will Campbell up until the injury was not this dreadful football player and then they rushed him back and he was absolutely dreadful and he couldn't plant. So, I I think it's a little bit premature, but if they take a tackle, especially with Morgan Moses, and there's still been some retirement buzz around him and and one way or another, they're going to need to eventually replace him. I would not fault them for taking a tackle, but a lot of people be talking Campbell. Yeah. Mhm. I just I just look at it and go, where's where's the highest upside, but is never healthy. Yeah. Well, that part. Yeah. Yeah. But I I think the I just look at the best upside like like I think that his upside as a guard is higher than his upside as a tackle. Like I I think he'd be a fine tackle. I just think he could be an even better guard, which is fair, but this early I I I don't need to move Will Campbell to to guard this early. Okay. I know we were being like kind of like gossipy about the Rabel thing. Do you think this Rael thing is going to affect them next year? Do you think that that they're going to take a step back after going to the Super Bowl last year? Because I got to be honest, I'm not I'm a lot different. I'm not betting on the Patriots already. Sure, the odds of them getting back to the Super Bowl aren't in their favor. I still think they should be a 10- win team that that goes to the postseason, but this idea and like I'll keep it real with you guys. This idea that Mike Vrabel now can't be a leader of men or this situation impact the football team. How many guys in his own locker room are probably cheating on their wife? Like, I'm totally with you with that. No one's going to care about this inside the locker room. probably some of the players saying, "Coach, you're a dog." Honestly, no, it has nothing to do with that. The difference to me is their schedule is dramatically different and they did get some luck throughout the season. Are they going to be a good team? Sure. Uh, but is is is Drake May completing 73% of his passes again? I'm not so sure about that. And, you know, and their schedule, you know, was a big was a it will be a big difference this year. you know, off top of your head, just to make it a little bigger, like who is the favorite in the AFC? I mean, Baltimore got got the guard tonight. That's that's a nice pick. I see the odds love the Ravens, but I don't know. Is it the Chiefs again? I mean, what do I actually don't have I don't know if their markets on that yet right now. I'm sure there are, but I don't even know. I'm watching. Yeah. Who's the I'm really high on a team that's probably not the favorite. I'm really high on the Chargers this year. Getting both their allpro tackles back. I think that's a big deal. Um, I think Amari and Hampton in year two is going to be big. I think Herbert, you know, uh, the Harbaugh effect is all there. I'm I'm really high on the Chargers really with getting um with their tackles back, but I know that's a, you know, kind of under the radar. I I would say probably most people go I I don't disagree with the Chargers, but we got to see Herbert win a playoff game first. Um, but the tackles get him back and McDaniel now being the OC. I think he's more of an OC than a head coach is a big plus. Uh, I kind of look at the Broncos or or even the Bills like don't like maybe getting Mcdermad out of there. I know they promoted with them with Joe Brady. Uh, you just see a little bit of of a different level from Josh Allen who obviously is, you know, arguably the best quarterback in the NFL. How about I go the Chiefs? When is Momes coming back is a question. How much rust when he does play, even if it's earlier than expected, does he have to knock off? And also, I know they drafted Monsour Delane tonight, but they're without McDuffy and Jaylen Watson. So, I think that's a big hit to their defense. So, it looks like over on Koshi, Benny's putting it up. Uh, Ravens at 13. It's a $1 million market on Koshi and it looks like it's Chiefs, Ravens, Chargers, Pats, Broncos. It's wide open, I'll tell you that. Like, I think it's fun now. Like, who would have thought the Patriots would have got there in the AFC and then this year you could throw a lot of darts on there. Uh, and you know what? What about Cincinnati? Like, can they play defense? It it that's obviously a big question, but they just got Dexter Lawrence if their defense could just be average and Burrow stays healthy uh with Jamar Chase and T. Higgins and um and Chase Brown. Like, is it crazy to say that they could get back to to a Super Bowl and AFC Championship game? I don't think so. No, absolutely not. It's not crazy at all. I mean, listen, let's put it this way. You give me all of the young stud quarterbacks in the AFC, right? And I and and I'll give you the field, you know? But that's part of the reason also why I think the Patriots might have a tougher road to hoe. You know, you're not going to get many chances. You're not going to get many years where Mahomes and Lamar and Joe were all, you know, we're all not part of the equation. Put it this way. Anyone that you say in the AFC right now, them or the field, I'll take the field. Like the odds are just in my favor there. Cincinnati. Zack. Oh man. Sorry I bounced out there. I said I think Belich did that. Uh, all right, Zach. What What do you got going tomorrow on your show? Uh, so we'll be live from 11:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. Eastern time tomorrow doing a little special edition earlier in the day, recapping the first round. Talk about the Tai Simpson thing. I think he is the biggest winner from the first round. I'm not saying the Rams are, but he is for the landing spot. And really, that top 10 was was chaotic. That was definitely chaotic and and wild. and DS and Bane both not going in the top 10. I thought one could fall out was was major and I give credit to the Cowboys uh getting Caleb DS. I thought that was a heck of a selection. All right, Zach, awesome to see you. Pittsburgh going with an offensive lineman. Oh, there you go. Maybe that's what Rogers was waiting for to actually come back. Probably just waiting for the Iaska to wear off, guys. That's fair. The Shaman needed to tell him what to do. But that last playoff game against Houston, you know, and Will Anderson, Denil Hunter, you know, in his ass the entire time. Maybe that was part of it. Let me see you get a little bit of protection. Uh, and and then I come back. You know what? Rogers kind of reminded me of Pearllof walking around the the office when we were together. Like old hunch over looping around. That's that's kind of what uh Rogers remind me of with Dude, that game time. I'm slinging it. I'm slinging it. All right. Exactly. Go watch Go watch the highlights of the 2019 Super Bowl. 133 over the Rams. Just leave. I'd probably go 2003, but guys, be well. Awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Funny how hard it was to pick the uh AFC there. Whoa. And I I don't know. I as far as win now uh is there a team when you guys look at like we're getting into like the Super Bowl contenders right now. Are these are there picks that are going to be we're talking about in January because you know there's some good teams coming up right now and there's a lot of wide receivers to the left. Yeah. And that's a position that could contribute. Yeah. There are playmakers who all of a sudden like we're going to be talking about Denzel Boston catching a touchdown pass in the divisional round of the playoffs. Who will it be for? I don't know. You know, I mean, and and think about it this way. The Chargers also, you know, they they've got Lad Mani. A lot of people don't really believe him in him as an alpha number one kind of guy. Keenan Allen is old. Is Trey Harris ready to take a step forward? They had Quinton Johnston on the block at on the trade block at some point. You know, this Chargers pick is going to be interesting to me. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I see we're in the middle of the offensive tackle run, too. Uh Mezador Meador is for the Charger now. Oh, really? Okay. Yep. Mezodor came in. Cowboys are on the clock. We still only have three wide receivers. Um the Browns at 24 is going to be the next one. I It's got to be the Browns at 24. Who do you think they go with? Let's put some money on them. I like Conpion. Conception or Boston? Benny saying Denzel Boston to Cleveland is 97%. Yeah, Miami is 83%. Conception or Boston? I could see it being Boston. Big Body Boston. Great hands. Yeah, great hands. Like that's going to be something conception to the Bills at 97% according to Benny right now. Benny's right on. But that's Benny's like Mr. Wizard right now. DJ Moore and and I'd love your thoughts on this because you're talking about small body ex wide receivers. Jean, is DJ Moore also a smallbodied ex- wide receiver to you or would Casey Conception fit or is Casey Conpion kind of doubling up on a DJ Moore? No, because CA because we just talked about it. Conception gives you that return that return man ability that that can make him a like like I think Conception says a lot about what they think about going with um um uh what's the what's the slot guy for right now? If you could put money on Browns that Casey Conception owned, I would do it right now. Probably not. You probably won't. You probably can't. Um yeah. Okay, DJ Moore. If if it's that good right now. No, I don't think No, hold on. You you can't you can but you can't. I'm scrambling because so they they removed a lot of those kind of open markets and now it's a lot of over under. But if you put all the pieces together, you could still do that. So Conpion is under 24 and a half which covers the Browns plus 105 even money. So I would Yeah, you can't necessarily bet to the Browns. We got to be careful. I've seen some of those to the team. Yeah, every team is listed at 97%. Some of those markets have like $200 in them. So, the overunder markets are very liquid. That's probably the best place to do the shopping right now to look for guys that we think are still left to go today. And like you said, sometimes you get an extra bonus pick. So, like I bet on Conpion and I even get one extra pick in case he doesn't go. Although I think if he I don't I think if he doesn't go to Cleveland, I'm not getting him. All right. I still I got a conception on still a market under 24 and a half. Um yeah, I think uh I think this is happening but we'll see. Um so so you like him under 24 and a half Cleveland at 24. Yeah, because he's a Cleveland. Well, or right or somehow to Dallas right here too. That's like the bonus, you know. The more obvious is Cleveland, but the bet would also cover Dallas, which you know is naturally cool. You got a little back door just in case. You never know what they're going to do. Well, I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna roll. I'm gonna throw I'm gonna throw a quick little 50 piece in there. Invest a little bit. See what happens. It actually just jumped to plus 125, which doesn't sound like a big deal, but if you're a better, it's a big deal. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Uh we're getting I'm just doing a little something on it. We're getting close to number 25, the Chicago Bears. Let's talk a little Bears with Alan Gure. Allan, how you doing? What's up, Alan? I'm good, guys. How you doing? You having a good night? Uh, you know, I've had we've had our hits and misses. I've had some misses, some hits, but uh you're coming up. Uh you know, listen, we were talking about is there a pick or a team that can pick a guy that'll take him over the top to the Super Bowl tonight? I feel like the Bears are they're knocking on the door. They're not far away. Is there that kind of excitement in Chicago? There there's kind of that excitement, but we have so many holes to fill here. Um literally any position on the defensive side of the ball is up for grabs, except for maybe safety, uh maybe cornerback. you know, the back field. They've got some interesting pieces back there, but they need a linebacker. Nobody's talking about that. And granted, there aren't really any interesting linebackers that they that they could pick at 25 that would make sense. That's someone they can get on day two, but you know, they need a left tackle. They need a left tackle pretty badly. I would not be opposed to getting a wide receiver in the first round. What? Wait, you froze there for a second. After trading away DJ Moore, you have Burden coming into his own. You have Aduna, you have Loveland already How scary would it be if they grabbed Boston? They had DJ Moore already, right? I mean, but they were a problem last year with DJ Moore and it would be an equal problem if not a better problem and certainly a cheaper problem uh if they do bring in a first round talent. That's a scary that's a scary offense right there. Um, okay. You know what? I'm cool like that. By the way, you know, the Bears could trade out. Is that what What do you hear about that? Uh yeah, that's a Ryan Ples loves himself some draft day dealing. Uh you know, obviously when he had one and nine when he got Caleb and Odun, you're staying put there. You're not going to get cute. But I think pretty much every other first round he's moved up a little bit, moved down a little bit. Uh we know he likes stockpiling um day two picks, even day three picks. And you know, he's pretty good at that. like Kyle Manungai. He snuck in the seventh round last year. Uh so yeah, give the guy a couple picks uh to play with later on in the draft. And you know, really, I'll ask I'll put this to you guys. Is there anybody that you're going to get at 25 that's going to be significantly better than someone you can get at 33? I think I think the question is, can you get that person at 33? like that. It's not necessarily that person. Not No, no, I meant that that person as in that type of like for instance, if you say, "Hey, if you if you you said, "Hey, I want a linebacker." I don't think you have to get them at 25 cuz I think there's 15 linebackers in this draft that could be startable, right? Like it's a super deep offball linebacker draft. So like you don't have to get Jacob Rodriguez at 25. You know what I'm saying? you could just wait and get one of the 12 other dudes or, you know, that are going to be on day two and day three that go. Um, I mean, my guy has been Peter Woods. I I always liked him as a player, but I when during the pre-draft process, I saw him interviewed a couple times. He just seems like a really high character guy, and I know that Dennis Allen and any other DC in the league wants a high character guy. But one thing he said that it it sticks in my head because it's hilarious is he wanted to play in Chicago. Wood was playing Chicago because he loved playing with Jay Cutler on Madden when he was growing up. Oh, I'm sold. I'm sold. I tell I'll tell you this. You won't get Peter Woods in the second round. No, you're not going to get him in the second round. But you get him at like you can get him at 28 29. No, I know. I'm saying you could get him at 25. You won't get him at 33. Why did Yeah. Why did he fall? Like what happened? He came in in top 10 in every mock this year. It just didn't really happen for him this year. Oh, he fell. This is an I'm glad you asked me this because it's something I want to talk about. Um, he kind of fell off between his junior and senior years. The numbers fell off, right? He still looked tough on the field, but the numbers fell off. You know who else's numbers fell off between uh his his draft year and the previous season? Luther Bird. And look what happened there. Well, I I can tell you why. It's because like um Clemson just tried to move him all around. They never let him they never let him sit in one spot. And because they never let him sit in one spot, he was just constantly being the the the focus of an offense wherever he moved so that other people could get in. But like the fact that he's even able to move all around and and and go to all of these different places is why you won't find somebody like him in the second round because there's just not that many defensive linemen in this draft that have that type of versatility. Let me ask you guys this. you know, the Bears do have um two picks in the second round, two like pretty, you know, top half of the second round picks. Um would you guys package them and either move down and stockpile the end of the second beginning of the third round or maybe try and sneak into the first round if there's a guy you identify? What do you guys think about that? I'm curious. I I would move I I would focus on next year. You know, I I would collect draft capital. You know, I listen, I've studied all these guys, I don't know. But how many times how many times have you heard this is a weak draft? You know, topheavy. Yeah. I I don't I don't know. I think that there are some real there's some gems in here. Um some guys that at in three years you're going to be happy that you had a fifth year on right like but right now maybe you just don't see it. Um, but I also think that there's just infinite amounts of value in the second through fourth round this year because it may not be as the the stars may not be as heavy on the up on on on the top of the board, but receivers are it's a really deep wide receiver to wide receiver three draft. It's a really deep offball linebacker draft. Um, there are more there are more safeties that are better than people give it credit for. Like there are guards out here we haven't even talked about yet. Like like Ayon is on the only guard off the board. So like Emanuel coming up soon. Yeah. So I mean there's so many different players that are just not glamour players that you don't normally talk about a lot because you're talking about the high-end receivers and and the quarterbacks all over the place. You're talking about upall linebackers like you know Jacob Rodriguez was fifth in the Heisman voting you know and this and if he was 64 he would have been top five Anthony Hill out of Texas right CJ Allen out of Georgia for goodness sakes we talking about the safeties the kid from Finnman hasn't even gone yet the kid from Toledo McNeel Warren hasn't gone yet right that's a guy I've been lusting after him you're just you're just thinking about Peanut Tman Oh, you're just thinking about Peanut. That's all. You want another Peanut punch up here? I love Peanut. The FBI agent, man. What's bad about him? Can I ask you something? Cuz you know, you were talking about the secondary of the Bears. I am a Jets fan. We signed um Deshawn Wright, who was one of your corners last year, NFC defensive player of the month in November, had five interceptions. Can you give me Can you give me a thought? because we got him for only like $5 million when a lot of people thought that he was going to be worth a little bit more. Um what do you do you like him? Was that a good was that a good move to to get him in free agency? Good price. Definitely a good price. Um he's a ball hawk, but I think that that in terms of just like sticking on a guy, he's not awesome, which is why I think that they were willing to let him go. Um, having said that, you know, if they'd have gotten him for 5 million, I I really feel like it would have been a good He's got a super high character guy. Super high character guy, and that's something the Jets do traditionally. Oh, yeah. They value that. Yeah. No, they value that. They want those kind of guys in the building. Um, yeah, he's he's he's a really hard worker. Uh, he's always going to play with a chip on his shoulder because what is he 27 now, I think. Yeah. And he fits that tall, lanky. You know, Glenn wants to play press man. Um, so I thought that was a fit. Guys, Browns 24. Uh, the numbers have shot up here. All right. Conception under. It is. Let's go. Is it Conception? Yeah. Yeah. It's I Yeah, I got I know like 10 minutes ago that was him and I guess I was right. That's a great Oh, the these under markets are great. We should shift focus to wrap this up. So, I hit the last two. I got Malachi under 26. Cash it and Conpion under 25. Cash it back to back. I was just kind of going through my list and the list of players that are left and who I think might get drafted. Look at that. Like here we go. So they might be the fourth, right? So we still have Boston potentially. Exception is is four. He's four. I got eight picks. Eight. You got the Chiefs at 29. You got Miami at 30 who could be another wide out. We got Boston still. We got Omar Cooper still. I don't know. I know we're on this no, but I like that you're also Gene talking about some of these day two guys. Like I'm a big fan of Chris Bell out of Louisville. I think um I think he's going to make some team really really happy in the second round as well. I mean I think this is where you're going to start like really hearing the you know what was said earlier which is who can you get now that you can't get in round two, round three. And I think that's going to go for wide receivers. I I'm going to I'm going to give you a hot take right here. I could see a round two, round three wide receiver outperforming the round one wide receivers this year. Oh yeah. I won't even be surprised by it. Like remember that year when AJ Brown and Metaf went in the second round and and Cooper Cop? Oh man, it happens all the time. Like I just I just I just look at what what somebody's gonna go to Miami and get gifted a wide receiver one position. Yeah. They're gonna be the All they do is there's nobody else. Yeah. There's no one else there. So, it's like, and then there's someone that's going to go to a place where they're just a perfect fit for what's going on and they're going to get more targets than you would think they would have gotten if they would went somewhere else in the first round. So, you know, we'll see. I'm saying is remember there are still some wide receivers available in free agency. The name Jawan Jennings comes to mind, right? I, you know, I I personally think the Niners are going to move on from Brandon Aayuk and he's going to go to Washington because he was at Arizona State with with uh with Daniels, right? There's older guys out there as well. A Diggs, Aenan Allen, a few others. So, you know, I think Miami, you're right. You know, someone's going to fall into a lead wide receiver role there, but I wouldn't be surprised if, you know, Jawan Jennings signs there for 21 million a year as well and kind of puts a little bit of a wet blanket on that. Um, Alan, guys, is it my imagination or is Cleveland had a good night tonight? Yeah. No, we just talking about that. Yeah. Watenfo at six. Uh, Alan, why have you I haven't pulled these out because we've been going fast and furious. I have trivia cards and I was looking at this and there were a bunch of bears questions, but they're so easy they're just going to embarrass you. But can I just give them to you so you could enjoy? I'm embarrassed already because I'm going to blow one or two of them. Who has the nickname the refrigerator? Well, William Perry, of course, which I was thinking about him tonight. Like every O lineman that I've seen in this is like five times as big as the guy they used to I think about that all the time. Yeah. Okay. Um the Fog Bowl uh was a 1988 playoff team between which two teams? That would be the Eagles and the Bears. I'm an Eagles fan, so I don't like to talk about that. How many touchdowns did Walder Payton score in Super Bowl 20? I mean, come on. Goose Egg. Heartbreaking. Yeah, I hate bringing that up to my I was explaining that to my daughter. I was wearing a Walter Payeyton shirt. Uh this was like two weeks ago, right? And I was talking about he's my favorite Chicago athlete, even above Michael Jordan. And I was telling her about the Super Bowl and how he was crying in the locker room afterwards and she just didn't get it right. They won. They won 46 to 10. I don't get it. And I was like, it's a Super Bowl touchdown. It's it's it's a slippery slope. That's so funny. Uh are we close to 25 by the way? Okay. pick is in. Actually, the pick is in. Oh, wow. All right, I'll give you one to stump you and this is for the whole real quick and you have to say it off top of your head. It's not our How many teams played in a brand new stadium for the 2020 season? Off the top of your head, two four. And name the teams. Oh, Jesus Christ. Chargers, Rams. That's what Yeah, I was gonna say that. The Raiders. The Raiders. Very nice. The Raiders. So, wait, what what do we got? What does the market say about the Bears here? Yeah, that's a very good question. Yeah. To your point, Benny. What do we got on the Bears right now? What does it look like? I'm moving like Colton Hood, for example. Uh the quarterback out of Tennessee is someone who's the under at least is is shooting up, says Benny. Okay. All right. Um, we'll keep you to the pick and then we'll let you go because we got to see your reaction live. All right. I'm I'm staring at the TV right now. I'm like eyeballing between uh the the ESPN website, which has been loading a little bit faster. Who's got the quicker feed? Yeah. Um, are you uh how high are you on Caleb Williams? Like high high. I am high high high on Caleb Williams. And again, like I know I keep talking about character, but that kid is so cool. He's got it together. His priorities are right. I saw an interview with him recently where he was talking about um wanting to maintain like a level of for lack of a better word fat because that way when he gets hit it might not hurt as much which I thought was kind of a really interesting take on it. Or maybe he just wants pizza. I don't know. How would you feel about Colton Hood for your Bears? Because it looked like he just shot up to 99% the quarterback. What? Really? Could be. It could be just one of them, you know. 99%. I bet on McCoy. I didn't think he'd jump McCoy. Well, the injury history there for McCoy is the issue, right? Yeah. Hood's over under was was up at 35. So, if that's the number that spiked, there's still a little bit of room there. I'd still be surprised if he went now, but I'm holding on to a threat trying to go three in a row right now. This is, you know, it's funny. We uh we're getting towards the end here quick. I think every team from now on is trying to trade out. Yeah. you know, but now that Tai Simpson was already drafted, I don't know. Like, who's trying to trade in though? That's the question. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Is there any reason? Is there I You know, I assume that the talent pretty much flattens out at a certain point around here. When Simpson got drafted, I I tweeted out this draft is drunk. Caleb Lomu is still on the board. Like, that's who I think the Bears are going to pick out here. Yeah. So, like that to me is I mean I think Boston is is going to really help someone especially in the red zone, you know, and I could see Miami there at 30. We've been talking about how they need wide outs. Um I wouldn't be surprised the Chiefs try to go and get another weapon as well at 29. Yeah, I mean the Chiefs have a lot of defensive needs still and there's still we have we seen any interior defensive lineman yet? Well, you saw we saw Kell Banks, but guess Banks. Peter Woods is still out there. He is. Yeah, Katie McDonald is not gone, right? Katie McDonald is still there. Yeah, that was a guy that was being mocked to the Bears a lot really early on, but he they haven't really said much about him lately. It's interesting. He just kind of fell off. Um, so the pick is Theamman. It's the safety. Oh, there you go. I think that's a great pick. That's a great pick. They let Buyers go, right? They let uh Kevin Buyers go. They did. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, they needed a safety and I thought EMW was going to be the guy. I actually didn't think was going to be available. Um, kind of a fall in the lap situation. I'm thrilled with this pick. I think he's going to be a stud. Awesome. Day one starter. Sticking it to the Vikings on that one. Yeah. Allan, appreciate the time. Where can people find you and what do you got going? What's the latest? Chicago sports stuff.substack.com. Um, it's a fiveday a week Monday through Friday funfest. I talk about Chicago sports, Bears, obviously, Bulls, a little bit of Cubs, a little less white socks. I'll even touch on the fire in the sky once in a while. Um, I have a partnership with Stratamatic. Uh, we do a lot of simulations, a lot of Chicago simulations, you know, the 2016 Cubs versus the 1909 Cubs. Uh, that's a ton of fun. Um, yeah, it's subscription's free for now. Uh, once the the numbers just skyrocket, uh, I might charge a dollar or two a month. haven't decided yet, but yeah, come on by and check it out. Uh, you can visit me on Twitter, Alan Gultchure, Allen Gultchure. And, um, yeah, thanks for having me guys. You want one more trivia question? You guys are doing great work. Uh, congratulations. I hope it it just keeps moving and growing and growing and moving. You want one more? We appreciate it. One more trivia, Alan. Yeah, we hit you. Who's the only person who played in the Super Bowl and the World Series? Dion. Dion Sanders. Yeah. Figured. Yeah. I thought we might outthink ourselves. It's Dion. Not, it's not Danny A. No, Brian Jordan. Yeah, exactly. Could have been Brian. All right, guys. Thank you so much for having us. This is really fun. Have a great night. Thanks, too. Have a good one, Alan. Oh, I'm seeing in the in the chat. Uh, we're getting Omar Cooper action in San Francisco 95%. So, that's interesting to me. So, so right now I've got I've got Caleb I've got I've got investments in on Caleb Lomu um under, you know, under 27 and a half. I've got Peter Woods under 28 and a half and I'm looking at and I'm looking at, you know, the Texans where the pick is in. So, we don't like we don't know who it is, but they've made the pick. Wow. Is there a trade? Uh, and it's a old like it's they need a O lineman. They need another D lineman. That might be that' be Caleb Lomo in my opinion because Buffalo back two spots with the Texans. And this could be one of the things like, oh, the guy is still there and Houston was looking for the offensive lineman. We're surprised that Lomu could still be there and is kind of hop um hop over San Francisco, let's say. Yeah, I'm just I'm just chips. Yeah, Twitter saying it's Keelin Rutled uh at 26 guard. They think it's Keelin Rutled. Yeah. Oh, I don't know much about that. Georgia Tech. Why Rutled? That doesn't make any sense to me. Texans Texans need anybody. Their offensive line, but this is why their offensive line is terrible every year because it's like that Keelen Rutled when you have the this level of guys that are still out there on the board right now. Chase Basantis is out there. Like why are you going Keelin Rutled with with Chase Basantis who is a mer. He's out there. He's a guy who can make bodies. Jean Pregnon. Pregnant is out there. Although I like Basantis a little more. Pregnon's a little bit more of a fire hydrant than me. But like I like I mean I I I agree though. He's still good. I'm taking them before I take Keenan Rage. Like ah you know you know what they know more than we do. I've seen, by the way, six six plus receivers at 56 cents 56%. So maybe unless they get on a run in the last five. To me, the only spots left in my opinion are AC at 29 and Miami at 30. What are you seeing, John? You see something there? Yeah. So, Besantis, who we just mentioned, immediately he shot up to like basically a lock for gosh, I just had it was okay, under 29, you know, not that you're going to bet it, but so the assumption is if he, like I said, I think he's going to Houston. I'm sitting here kind of scratching my chins, but I guess the assumption that it's going to be either Miami or Buffalo. I had Miami for alignment also, which really kind of shocks me that they didn't take what again I don't pretend to be a prospector, but when consensus and enough people I trust kind of agree, you know, I'll win that way, including you, coach. You know what I mean? It's everybody is saying he's the guy, you know what I mean? It's okay to outsource some of your work to people who in the know. So, I'm a little I'm a little perturbed, but I guess if he's not the player that went one of the other two teams, Miami or Buffalo, got the signal, he's going to be the guy. So, it looks like he's going to be going in the next few minutes. Anyway, another We got Benny in the back saying Omar Cooper to San Francisco is up to 95%, but they signed Mike Evans. I think an under the radar move. They also have Christian Kirk. They're also waiting for the Ricky Pieraw breakout and still there. I mean, he's still there, right? I don't think he's gonna actually play another down to the San Francisco 49ers, but still like that's Yeah, but they got to figure out what to do with him, right? Yeah. No, I I don't think that's the position of need necessarily. But San Francisco has now just traded out of the pick. San Francisco's traded it to Miami. So Miami now to me this is a wide out. I think this has got to be a wide out. Yeah. So Miami and and and um San Francisco it looks like have flip-flopped. Miami is now on the clock at 27. Um the NerS get the 30th. So they flop there and 90 which is a third round pick. Um, I'd be interested here. To me, you know, I'm I'm thinking that this is Denzel Boston or maybe Omar Cooper, but I like Boston better than Cooper. So, we shall see. You know, one thing, Jean, that could be interesting if Cooper makes it to the into the second round. Then all of a sudden, the Raiders could pair Mendoza with Cooper, which would be very interesting. if he is still out there. I wouldn't be surprised to see the the Raiders go and get um Serat at some point to to go with, you know, Mendoza. But if Cooper was still there for them at like 35, I think they're at. Yeah. I mean, I I just think it's gonna it's going to matter about like where um like what they think about the receivers they already have in place, what team guy like Cooper cuz Miami is still on the clock. Miami is still on the clock. We're thinking it's a wide out. I I I think this is the Denzel Boston pick. That's what I'll say. I think this is Denzel Boston here for Miami at 27. Yeah. I have a a question. Do you think Miami is a team that's looking into the draft? How much of a shot does Malik Willis get like in next year's quarterback draft or they you know they seem like they're in in limbo like they paid a little bit of money but I don't know what they're really building around Malik Willis. No, I I think that's fair. You know, it's the Green the Green Bay connection I think had a lot to do with it, right? Um but you know, you're right. I I you know, he's he he had a few starts in Green Bay. Everyone loves this 2027 draft class. So, I could see this still being something like prove it for Malik Willis. And to be quite honest, if I'm Malik Willis, I was on some level the bell of the ball in free agency right before Kyler Murray entered the flare fray and others like that. Miami, we're just talking about they have no weapons whatsoever. He's not necessarily set up to succeed. No, in Miami, right? And then if because he has no weapons, he underperforms and then all of a sudden Miami wants to turn around and take a an Arch Manning, a a a Dante Moore, a John Matier, a Lenores Sers, you know, one of these guys. I think, you know, he could get a raw deal on some level. Yeah, I agree. I agree. Um, so we're seeing in the chat, Jordan Schultz reporting Chris Johnson to Miami, the quarterback. Oh, wow. That would be great for your no five wide receivers. Uh oh man, if Miami does not go wide receiver here and we're still at four off the board with teams trading back, trading back, trading back, you know, because they that does not leave many places where a wide receiver could go. I don't think San Fran wants a wide receiver. The Texans draft the Texans drafted two um Iowa State wide receivers last year, right? Um Seattle doesn't really need it. New England I don't see doing it. It would really only be against What about Buffalo? They just traded for DJ Moore. I mean I mean they need more than one They need more than one piece. Buffalo got you short. That's fair. I mean Yeah. I mean they have a lot of We're at four. We're at four right now. Yes. So you would need to get shut out the rest of the way, Jean. Yeah. You would have to I need I need a no I need a I need a um a no hitter the rest of the way. Well, I mean it's only what six picks and they're What if you guys just like who do we think is still going to Who do we think is still going to go with these five? Like I have like I I thought Lomu might have been gone in the first round. I kind of had McCoy as a first rounder out of Tennessee hanging around there. Any other names you guys see that you felt like that looking back you'd be surprised if they don't go in the first? Boston. Yeah. Yeah. What's um Sorry, unless I miss him. Did Did Jamar McCoy Did you just mention Jamar McCoy? Is he gone? He is not, right? He is not. No. No. McCoyy's still floating. Yeah. Yeah. But that was I think that was expected because people just don't know what his medical like. Yeah. Yeah. It's fair. It's fair. You know, Allan was talking about Peter Woods. No, Peter Woods is um definitely a guy who if he doesn't go in the first round, I'm be like, "What? What about Katie McDonald?" I wouldn't be surprised. I think all of those all of those um nose guards, the three big no nose guards, him um the kid out of the kid out of um Texas Tech, um Hunter, and Big Orange, um Dominique Orange out of Iowa State. I thought all of those were back into the first round, second round talents. Um, as far as nose guards go, they're just not getting the value, the same value that they used to get. So, have we talked about Kel Faulk at all tonight? I I I feel like that's a guy who everyone had what top seven coming into the season. Yeah, I haven't heard a whisper about him. I don't know what the market said, but not much. All right. I'm getting a lot of notes from Yeah. What's your note from Cali, Andrew? It keeps on updating me on the six plus wide receivers drafted in the first round. I've got like seven updates on it. Oh, it's not happening now. It's moving a lot. Six is not going to happen. Yeah, this I this a little bit behind. And the Bills have traded the pick now. The Bills are no longer on the clock. They traded to New England. New England's not taking a receiver. So, no, there's one more place because that's another spot though. New England is moving up what, like two spots. Who are they really? They trying to hop the Chiefs. Who are they trying to hop the Chiefs for? Wait, does New England do they? New England has just moved from 31 to 28. Does New England need another corner? No, they don't. Do they? Could it be Colton Hood out of Tennessee? Yeah. Let's see who's there. And it's in immediately. You got to love these trades. They know exactly what they want. They make the move and love. They're making the move. It's because they've got a guy. It's because Yeah. Right. Right. Which that usually lends me to believe it's somebody they were almost certain was just about to go and didn't. Right. And now they had to pounce. See, I thought kind of like the Eagles did with Mai Lemon. Yeah. Is Vel in the room? I heard that Vel was not going to be in the war room over the weekend because he was um he's in counseling taking resort. Yeah. Yeah. He's watching the sunset over the mountains. Yeah. Yeah. He's in. This is so ridiculous. Caleb, guys, he's dealing with serious addiction, guys. Caleb Lomu is Yeah. So, what does that mean? That means you're going to move you're going to move to guard. Move Campbell to guard. Like that's what should happen cuz he should have never been a tackle cuz everybody in the draft said, "Hey, this guy's going to be a really good guard." And then the Patriots in the Patriot fashion's like, "No, we're going to leave him playing tackle." So, this is a this is good news for the Patriots then. It sounds like I think it's great. I think it's great. I think I think you only strengthen your team if you move, you know, if you if you move him inside and now you have Lom Mo on the outside. Man, it's hard to follow even who's Oh, look. That was another pick. I hit that one, too. So, that man, I'm looking forward. I got to write that down. What pick was that? What pick was that? 28. Yeah, he went pick 28. 28. I had him I had him under 27 and a half. Oh, man. that. So, I'm gonna mental note this for next year is especially if they're not gonna if they're not going to lay out a full menu for the entire first round. When you get to the end, yo, grab your list of the guys you think just Yeah. And that's doing right now. That's what Benny's putting up right now. Who is I just I just Yeah. I just knocked four of the last five picks out. And to be honest, they weren't they weren't picks I had pegged coming in. I'm looking at it right now. Listen, you know, given the teams that are left, KC, San Fran, Buffalo, Seattle, when you look at some of these positional needs, you got two wide outs still there, Cooper and Boston. You got cornerbacks in Hood. You got a safety in McNeil Warren. You got two of these like what you're talking about, coach, the nose tackles. You got McDonald and Woods still there, you know. So, these Woods Woods less of a McDonald and is is the nose guard. Woods is just a DL DL. He just plays all over the place. Like that's the difference. Let's try and figure this out with this board because this couch I think Woods is going to go I think Woods is going to go in the first round. I just who Casey San Fran Buffalo or Seattle? I don't know. I mean, you would think Casey got their quarterback. They'd probably go wide receiver here. But they they love drafting defensive ends. Lost two quarterbacks. Remember Casey lost two quarterbacks. They lost two cornerbacks. So, this could be um the other quarterback, the guy um um Johnson, Chris Johnson out of No, he was just drafted. Oh, did he just go? Did he just go to Miami? Oh, that's right. He went to This could be Colton Hood out of Tennessee. I can't believe what is Miami doing. Have mercy. We're hearing though that Peter Woods could be here. But if Hey, but if if this is McCoy and they're like, "Hey, we can afford to take a to take a McCoy. We have the infrastructure to survive for a year while somebody gets healthy. Like that could be interesting. Nando's telling us in the back that Peter Woods is the pick according to uh what he's seen on social. That would suck for me. Well, that's interesting because remember they picked that kid right around here, Felix Uzoma at 30 at the end of the first round. I What What is that pick? Was that pick 28 or pick 29? That's 29. Chief's 29. I had Peter Woods under 28 and a half. Oh, you're getting by the hook. I'm gonna tell you guys where I thinking is. I think Buffalo keeps trading back because they see that both Boston and Cooper are still available and they could get either one of those guys. Wow. So, I think people just think they can get these guys in the second round. Like I'm telling you, like these guys, none of these none of the rest of these guys are guys you're like, "Oh my god, they are so much better than these other guys that are going to be around tomorrow." Well, a lot of people like Neil Warren, the safety, and then they're I'm talking about the receivers. Like Bill Warren turns the ball over, so he's got some value as a guy who who gets the ball gets the ball out of people's hands. I can understand that. But I'm saying but yeah with these receivers like there are just so many other receivers that people are going to be like yeah but they're are they much better than these other guys that are there. It's dropping their value because people are like I'll just wait for one of these guys demand. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. With with it's the same thing with the linebackers. is why you're not seeing as many offball linebackers go because people are like, I can get an offball linebacker that's a starter like Kyle Lewis for Pittsburgh's out there. You know what I'm saying? Like there's there's there's guys who who we're not even like we don't even talk about who are going to just walk onto a, you know, a team and be an immediate like thumper for somebody. Jeremiah Troder's son is out there, you know. So, see the Jets traded into uh spot 30 with the ners. They traded into 30. Yeah. Oh, 33. No, to 30. No, from 33 is Oh, I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. 33 and 179 for 30. Oh, could this be three quarterbacks? No. Say they can't take They wouldn't have to make a trade. They wouldn't have to trade to do that. If you want the if you want to control for the fifth year, you got to get into the first round. What round is 179er Beck? Nusmeer back. They'd be back, I would think. But I mean, I don't know. I don't I don't I wouldn't take back over Nusmeer, but I wouldn't take Nusmeire in the first round. So, I mean, that's what I'm saying. I wouldn't take Tai Simpson in the first round. So, like I don't think I trade three spots to get Nusmeer. I think if you're if you're looking for a guy to control for five years, you're moving into the first round. I would say it's not a wide receiver. They already got Sadique. They're not double. All right. Jets just moved into the 30. So Chiefs are in. Jets slid in 29, right? Chiefs picked the 29ers in. Jets slid into the 30. Yeah, that's what you're saying. I haven't seen that yet, but that's what you guys saying. Yeah, tweeted it. It's official. It feels like a wide receiver going. There's a draft in the first round. So that's probably the neatest way to clean this out is team, you know, the players that are left to go today. The favorite is Omar Cooper Jr. And then after that, if you got the pick, it's better than plus money. Uh, looks like Colton Hood, Denzel Boston, Kendrick Faulk, Vantis, and Katie McDonald are the guys near the top. If they're all plus 150 or better, looks like Cooper maybe something got out on Cooper, maybe. But there's still some opportunities. Yeah, I wouldn't like it. Markets think it's a quarterback. Nusmeer to the Jets just jumped. Beck to the Jets just jumped. So pe the markets are believing that the reason the Jets moved back in is in fact for the quarterback. But Oh, Omar Cooper just went to 94%. For the Jets. Yeah, cuz my cuz my five wide receivers just went to 1% chance. Oh jeez. So that sounds like I was rolling smooth. I got really You were You already spending that money. You were spending that money. Who were they scared of? Because the Jets are 33. They hop Seattle who was not going to take a line. I'm telling you, Dane, it's not about that. It's about the fifth year. The the ability to control a quarterback anybody else. Yes, but that's for a quarterback, not for the fifth year for a quarterback, I give you. But we're talking about Omar Cooper. Yeah, but if it's not Omar Cooper, if it's a quarterback, then a quarterback. I get it. The fifth year control. I get it. But I don't think you make that move to control a wide out for the fifth year. Yeah. I don't cuz because you don't really want to pay the w what the wide outs fifth year is. Like you're not going to want to pay that. But um this is a we're talking about the Jets by the way. Nobody's paying anything for the in meet the Jets. This guy will see the Jets. Pick is in. And Benny is saying in the back that Omar Cooper has gone up to 99%. It's gotta be a wrap. It's gotta be him. It's a wrap. Is it possible? Yeah. Sorry. Go ahead. The Jets have added Kenyan Sadi and Omar Cooper. Yeah, if that's the case, that's not a bad hall. Along with Garrett Wilson, who is a legitimate top 10 wide receiver in the NFL. Bree Hall, who is a legitimate above the fold running back in the NFL. An offensive line. an offensive line that led the league last year in rushing yards before contact um and a defensive overhaul that has happened in free agency and they added David Bailey to rush the quarterback at number two overall. Yeah, welcome. What about AD? What about AD? You bring you waited. We took us three hours to get the Jet fan out of me. The ugly green Jet fan is popping out. Go on AD Mitchell, baby. more than seven targets a game. Mitchell is still your number three wide receiver though% target. Let's go, man. And potentially Omar Cooper if that is in fact the pick. And then you have the mismatch with Sadique. Mason Taylor hates tonight. I'll tell you that. Dane, I gotta be honest. Like I was pretty down on the Jets. You just convinced me to go from three and 14 to four and 13. It is Omar Cooper. I don't know. It just feels like isn't this supposed to Well, I guess it's supposed to be What? Isn't this Arch Manning's roster we're talking about or Dante Moore's? Well, I guess Dante Moore has If it is Arch Manning's Dante Moore's roster, then they're getting help. Yeah. Yeah. Weapons. So, that makes sense. They've got weapons. They got You think Buffalo might have gotten a a whiff? Maybe Buffalo was going to make that move. was going to take wide out was going to take maybe that's the best I could think cuz right again it feels weird to make these little jumps and skipping over people especially have a glare I didn't know if the Jets were going to go for another wide out I thought maybe Mitchell and AD were a good you know high low kind of in-out combination right AD is very good with stretching and Garrett the number three wide out I thought they were going to take Lemon at 16 I thought they were going to take Lemon and 16 not Sadique but listen you now have you now have some some pass catchers guys honestly Garrett Wilson Kenan Sadi Omar Cooper on hold on the scale of rookie tight ends from Kyle Brady to Harold Fannon Jr. Right. The very best and the very worst picks I can think of. Where is Sadi? You know, for years we were always conditioned that rookie tight ends were always going to take two or three years, year three breakout. Need to learn the blocking stuff. They're not going to ask Kenyan Sadi to block. Yeah. Yeah. That part. You know, that's why it took tight ends so long, right? Because they had to know the whole route tree and they had to know all the blocking assignments. Titans just Titans just traded in 31. The Titans right now is just the Buffalo Bills are out here just trading. Titans. Yeah. They don't even care. They're just like trading. This is how I am during a fantasy draft. Like, oh, whatever, man. I don't even like this guy. Why get this guy when you can have this guy, right? That's always the same thing. Titans Titans went Titans went receiver. They went Tate. So, they people thought they were going to go edge. Um, they need they have some offensive line needs. How about I got one be a Kendrick Faulk type of How about Jacob Rodriguez? Jacob Rodriguez. I doubt it, but would that be cool because you know he loves probably wants that. He let he let Dball get Tate at four instead of getting a Reese or getting a Styles. He's like, "Now I now it's my turn." Yeah. Yeah. The action looks like it's fog. Yeah. The action is is climbing on fall like fast. By the way, John, I'm sorry. Your scale of tight ends was Kyle Brady to Harold Fannon Jr. I tried to think of what was the wor what was the single worst tight end pick I could ever think of as a Jet fan. We're very familiar with Kyle Brady. Wins the best. What's that? Isn't it Winslow? The young Winsow. And you're just like rubbing it in now like wait wait wait wait there's other worst pitch. Is it negative one million to the end? Yeah, they're all terrible. We get it with the Jets. I thought the very best pick was Oh, right. I was thinking Edwards. I'm sorry. I got Brilen and Kellen mixed up. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, whatever. It's the Jets drafts. We're not used to them being good. Although, we'll, you know, we'll see. We'll see. This new kind of front office Yeah. has been pretty encouraging. It's the first time in as long as I can remember where they said, "Let's honestly rebuild." Like, let's really break it down. get the multitude of early picks where you still have to succeed. But I also love the AD Mitchell pick. Not to keep going back to him, but to buy low on first round pedigree, right, with a guy that maybe Yeah, he's just any right. He's healthy. He's a stud and we just had to get between the ears going. And you know what? We've seen him succeed. Listen, honestly, and you know, I think you guys know I am a Jets fan. My grandparents had season tickets at Chase Stadium for God's sakes. I mean, you know, like David Bailey and Will McDonald is not a bad edge rushing duo. They get the bigger edges in the three four like you know the Jo-Ann and Bares. Their defensive line when you have guys like Jawan Briggs, when you got Travante Sweat, when Harrison Phillips comes in, like those are all guys that were top 20 PFF Dlinemen. um you know Minka Fitzpatrick they traded for as a safety like they've really overhauled that defense and now you're giving Gino Smith as the bridge and ultimately whoever they pick as the franchise quarterback next year when they have three first round picks next year and will be able to go up as high as they need to with their own the Colts and the Cowboys. I mean all right so Faulk is gone. Seahawks are on the clock. Is it a running back? Because they only have Yeah, because they only have Charbanet now. And Charbanet got hurt. If it's a running back, well, they have they have um um the kid from from the Packers as well, the backup. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He he went over there. But like if it if it's a running back, is it Price? Price? Yeah. Is it Is it um um Washington? The meatball out of No, the meatball out of Washington. Um Oh. I don't know. My brain is is turned off point in the night. It'll come back to me, but not right now, apparently. No, I got you. Um, Coleman. Yeah, Jonah Coleman. Or is it more of the scat kind of guy like a Mike Washington, like an Emtt Johnson? Well, I wouldn't categorize Mike Washington as a scat. He's a big dude. Darion is 23 to1 real time to be this pick. I can't even find him. Like I be trying to I don't be feeling like looking for these people all over the place. Like I will say this on purpose. It's been three hours. We've got one pick left here tonight and we're at the threeh hour mark. And big shout out to everybody. You know 3,000 viewers. You know sevenoricles.com is where you need to get that free newsletter. you need to get down. Andrew, thanks for having us together and bringing it together. It's been a lot of fun. No, it also thanks to Nando. We were just like chatting and be like, we said, you know what? You know what would be fun? We should just do something in draft night. This is beyond my expectations and I'm not surprised. Just uh yeah, the seven Oracles are awesome. Wait, before we break, is there anybody you guys love tomorrow? Uh is there a guy like you think who who's left? I'll go for I kind of want to see Eli Sters and Jacob Rodriguez. Those are my two guys tomorrow. I like Sters a lot. You know, Sadique is known as this like unicorn or whatever. Sters, I mean, performed just as well as the combine was the Mackie award winner for goodness sakes, right? And so, and the way he will be deployed at the NFL level, I think will be pretty interesting. Yeah. And by the way, and I got one dark horse, Nate Boricker, or I can't even say uh oh, Nate Borcher. Can't say his name literally. You can't say his name because he's off the off the reservation, right? I mean, so to me, the idea that What was the ultimate lum number, guys? Five. It was five white outs, right? Yep. And it went on the nose five. On the nose five. And Denzel Boston is still there. That's going to be interesting to me. You're back. You literally couldn't say his name, Andrew. Yeah. Nate Borcer, the Texas A&M tight end. I think we'll go a lot higher than people think. And now I a lot of money coming in on Jadarian Price, by the way. Oh, so wait. Uh, and the market Oh, I would love that to close out. Let's go. Let's go. Do you think the market's going to get a big volume tomorrow? Uh, what do you guys think? Second and third round. I think it'll be around mostly around the quarterbacks. It'll be around the Becks, the Nusmeers, the Allers of the World, right? Oh, he just jumped 99% who's a D2 kid out of North Dakota State as well. Yeah. So, that's where the volume will be in my opinion around the quarterbacks. All right. Oh, whoever mentioned that price could be going to Seattle. If that one happens, man, I owe you a steak cuz it looks like that one racked. I think I just racked the 25 to one just sandwich, baby. Yeah, it's pretty awesome on the way out the door. I didn't get it at 25 to one. I got it at 10 to one though. I was able to finally find it. I was trying to like link it down. Let's hope it happens. But that'll be a nice way to end all the get down with the seven oracles. That was pretty cool with some, you know, to watch your stuff live. how I I don't like I don't even pretend to not know that much about the guys to back end. Yeah. But having good information and understanding how to read charts and just understanding pricing and not overpaying and how to bet responsibly and stuff and trade responsibly, that was cool. I had a profitable night. That was pretty awesome. I would love to cash this last one. That'd be great. I did really figure I did much better at the back end than the front end, which might even speak to why Calry doesn't list all that stuff. Yeah. I'll be interested to see if they do it going forward. If not, it's not. You gota also remember it's not even just about listing. It's about listing because there was a bunch of stuff listed at first and I don't think it got enough action and so then it gets pulled off cuz it's not Yeah. Yeah. in the action because all the like the draft order and out has been out for so long. It it goes to show you how this is all new. That's because all of this is new. like we're nobody else's. I guarantee there's no one else out there doing this thing right now. We are doing tonight. There's there's somebody there's somebody that's doing sports betting for sure, but there's nobody that's looking at the markets and and trying to decipher in real time how to read them with with just knowledge of players and an understanding of how markets move. Like I think that's I think that's so different. By next year it'll be by next year there'll be 50 streams doing this. I guarantee the deeper you get into drafts the more variant the picks are. So the better the payoff are on these long shots. And it didn't it wasn't necessarily 8D chess to know the Seahawks could and should be thinking about a running back. There's a tremendous gap this year. Price, even if he doesn't belong in the top 30 by talent, when you're the second running back, it's, you know, somebody's gonna want the guy. Yeah. And I also I also think that if if there were in a world with no Jeremiah Love, Jaren Price would probably have rushed for 1500 yards. Well, at Notre Dame, a lot more touches. That's the That's the rub. Like Like in a world where there's no Jeremiah Love, then Jan, you worry about how he might translate. No, because he hasn't gotten the workload like that. So again, some people say, "Well, he has doesn't have the hits." And I'm like, "Oh, that's a good thing." And some people say, "Well, taking the 200 load is a skill." And I'm like, "Oh, that's a bad thing." So, you know, don't don't ever say that like that again. Don't ever say 200 load like that again. We're not doing that. Um, I but I So the the the short answer the short answer to this bit, John, is I thought we weren't talking about Rini anymore. What the hell? You're right. Oh, wow. Hey yo, shout out to Rini holding it down, though. Yeah, she's getting hurts, man. Come on. I I'll give it to her. She held it down. She ain't ain't been no like she ain't been out here loose liipping it. she's not out here crying like and I respect people who who who move in an area and then just say you know what I'mma hold it down I can't say the same for the New England Patriots head coach who's like oh I'm going to try to be a better person just just shut up just stop talking Jarian Price is the pick cash it is right go home the dollar signs in the chat if you made money tonight ladies and gentlemen Put the dollar signs in the chat if you made money tonight. Yes. Loving you right now, man. There was two There were two running backs taken in this draft in the first round. I caught the spot on both of them. Yep, you did. I caught the spot on both of them and guess what? We made money with it. That's what I'm talking about. Andrew, I really do appreciate it. I know for all for all of the Seven Oracles, we we we appreciate you coming on, gracing us with your presence, you know, giving us a little legitimacy, you know, with with you being here. We always appreciate that, John. We appreciate you coming over from baseball, you know, and spending some time with us. Grind, man. This is a night this is a so refreshing baseball, man. It's up in your grill 24 hours a day, man. It's a nice break. No, you loved it, though. That's that's that's what you live for. Okay. It takes a certain kind of individual. I just happen to be that kind of person. I won't say what I won't say what kind of person it is, but it takes a certain kind of one. Oh, Jordan Tyson going inside of the top 10. Hey, that was a spitting statistician. That was a video. That was a that was a um what do you call it? Um a profitable prophecy. A profitable prophecy from the spitting statistician over there. We talked about Caleb Banks going in the first round as a lot. That was that was that was Chris James and I on our Fade the Field podcast. Make sure you check that out on Tuesdays. Um we just recently dropped the new um antenna. Yeah, antenna antenna dropped today. Uh a show about shows we're getting and these calcium markets are ridiculous. Nando Defino and myself covering Survivor right now. Who will get eliminated? But really at the Seven Oracles, we're doing everything. We're talking about album sales. We're talking about who's the next James Bond. Where will where will Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce get married? We're talking about the price of gas for goodness sakes. What will the president say in a random at the state of which is almost a everyday it's everyday right now. And if you love trading, you need to get down with the seven oracles. Our newsletter is free. Okay. And by the way, I will say this. If you sign up and you use the promo code the seven oracles, we are giving you not one, not two, but six free months to click around and find out all of our tools, all of our content to get paid in these prediction markets. Yeah. And one thing you're really going to really going to want to check out for some of you that are just like, yo, I I I don't know how to read these prediction markets. I understand sports betting. Just one tool. One tool. and and and Benny, if you're in the back, if you could pull it up, man, if you could pull up that Kawoshi converter and and show them how you go from looking at things on Koshi to looking at them through a betting lens. I don't know if you could do it, but if you can, I mean, you've been doing everything else tonight, right? like go over check out under our tools, check out the um Koshi converter and and and you'll see how to flip everything from Koshi over to, you know, um what you would do in a normal sports betting trick. That's the if what I try to do anytime I invest in anything, I want to figure out if there's one tool, just one, that I can get like, you know, some real legitimate like bang for my buck out of. And if the answer is yes, then I'm rolling with it. Hey, if you go up to the top, it says right there, tools and learn. If you go to the tools right there, go down uh probability converter. Cali converter. Where's the couch converter at? It might be under probability converter. Go back up to the probability. Yeah, that's what it is. Probability converter right there. And you can see over on the left, it shows that a couch is in 62% um 60 I'm sorry, 65 cents on the couchi. the decimal then you can see the American odds on the other time on the other side it gives you the implic imp implication on probability probabilities and all of the stuff that you're used to as a trader right you can look at it in in whatever form fits you and so I think that's very helpful for people who are just kind of jumping into this um prediction markets world because they're they got to show it to you differently because they don't want to get hit by the people who don't want you to call it sports betting right and and the fact that there's betting on any on anything, it's it's it's beyond betting. It's just, hey, we think this is going to happen and if it happens, then guess what? You win. So, um, find one thing you love over there. Like you said, six months free. Um, come over and join us. It's only going to get bigger. It's only going to get better. Um, this is a labor of love and we love our labor. So, um, once again, Andrew, take us home. Yeah, Jean, uh, I just got to reiterate, I learned so much about markets tonight. Uh, starting at noon today, I was on the phone with John and we could have talked all day. It's so much to learn from you guys. You and by and the football knowledge is like unbelievable, too. Um, yeah, this was so much fun. Let's find another event to do this for. I don't know what it is, but like you said, it could be anything. It could be the Oscars. No, it really could. It could. Next year it'll be the Oscars for sure. Next year we will have a Oscars live. The Oscars. We're all gonna have to dress up. That means you, John. Oh, come on. I got my bow tie. Will John hat? Have to put the t-shirt with the the suit. How about the tuxedo t-shirt? We'll see. Tuxedo t-shirt. We better cash this. Aubrey, no. I'm telling you, man. How this person is 80% yes. And is that was absolutely insane. I was I've been riding that and getting upset every week. All right. All right. Jean Clemens, Dave Martinez, John Gaza, you guys are awesome. We'll talk soon. Everybody in the back. Thank you, Benny. I know. Benny, you're awesome. Nando, you're awesome. Everyone who tuned in, thank you so much. Seven Oracles, check it out. You'll love it. Peace.